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[Mack1]

Dear Devs

Tonight I had so much fun playing MWO, it was brilliant. I was able to run directly to the enemy base almost every battle without having to worry about those nasty LRM boats, the skys were totally clear.

Another good thing was no SSRM's wow those nasty cats that used to jump on me really made me cry but now they have been bannished into the nasty pit, it makes the game so much safer. I no longer have to be scared of them, thank you

Before I go to bed to read my fairy tales and drink my warm milk I would like some advice on a new Mech i am building. I am thinking of putting 4 AC's on it but I am scared that some MWO players may commit suicide should they bump into me on the battlefield as I know from experience that when confronted with a mech that has formidable firepower they all cry rivers and run to the forums yelling CHEESE, CHEESE.

Maybe I should just put a few lasers on it and an ECM and join the other thousand people in the middle of the map rushing to eachothers base.

Anyway must dash

PEW PEW
Mack

[Rex Budman]

Rofl Mack!

I read your post yesterday, and watched your video.

I have to say, you are so bloody right. In fact, you are so bloody right, you bloody well right to say!

Ok, enough of that, but seriously; you are correct. This game is up ***** creek, but it isn't just ECM's mate.

You know those AC's you hate so much, have you used a UAC5? That thing is pot luck now anyway. If MWO permits you to use it, you may use it .

RnG say no shooting... RnG Say, shooting now, but only one! tsk tsk...

[Demoned]

lol good man XD
I to am loving ECM its great in a 3 man lance team

posted video as proof
a Atlas D-DC ECM ofc and a double LX-10 or somat he calls it the shotgun
a former streakcat now loaded with SRM4/6's
and me Hunch 4SP.

WARNING this video contains strong language



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Edited by Demoned, 09 December 2012 - 05:13 PM.

[ryoken12]

Hmmm just wait for the clans, and RACs. Then the game will really be busted.

[Mack1]

ECM is no doubt great in teams with your m8's or clans but in PUGs when you solo it's a nightmare. No one takes a tag, no one runs disrupt on ECM, everyone takes a Laser or AC boat and base rushes.

Looks like PUG gaming is going to die fast which will also mean MWO will die fast as most of the players will be PUG.

Rex Budman, on 09 December 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

Rofl Mack!

I read your post yesterday, and watched your video.

I have to say, you are so bloody right. In fact, you are so bloody right, you bloody well right to say!

Ok, enough of that, but seriously; you are correct. This game is up ***** creek, but it isn't just ECM's mate.

You know those AC's you hate so much, have you used a UAC5? That thing is pot luck now anyway. If MWO permits you to use it, you may use it .

RnG say no shooting... RnG Say, shooting now, but only one! tsk tsk...

Yeah I have 2 on y Phract and you are correct, they only fire when you say pretty please with sugar on top.

[Rex Budman]

Mack1, on 09 December 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

ECM is no doubt great in teams with your m8's or clans but in PUGs when you solo it's a nightmare. No one takes a tag, no one runs disrupt on ECM, everyone takes a Laser or AC boat and base rushes.

Looks like PUG gaming is going to die fast which will also mean MWO will die fast as most of the players will be PUG.



Yeah I have 2 on y Phract and you are correct, they only fire when you say pretty please with sugar on top.

I hear what you're saying about being a Pug nightmare, but what's the dif? Premades, standard loadout, ECM Atli... Lol. so now 8 man has to use disrupt, and fire LRM spam into CROWDS of mechs, potentially hitting your team. Hitting the team is not the issue, the issue is that there is now a standard loadout, and LRM's don't even need to be there. Streaks are only for commandos with ECM and lag sheild, and SRM's are for those on 50 ping and more than 40 frames.

So why bother? Just do as you say, Mack; AC/Laser boat, ask your RnG to treat you well today, and off you go. Sack lunch and all!

[SaJeel]

OK so heres the thing yes ECM is outa wack right now, but before ssrms were outa wack, this is just how games work. Even if the game was 100% balanced people would still cry fowl and say one tactic reigns supreme, and yet in a few months that tactic would be pretty butt. Take Starcraft when people found zerg rush was the thing to do everyone hopped on it, it became the only way, but people found out how to beat it, and then MM became the thing, thats how good games work, every tactic can be taken countered. See the beta at the top of your screen, that means the devs are working on the game... that means the game isnt balanced. ECM will get toned down and as soon as it does people will latch onto something else and claim it to be the new king of MWO which it wont be at least not for long if the devs do their job well, which they have been doing, keep up the great work guys, dont let sarcasm or greifers get ya down!

[Rex Budman]

SaJeel, on 09 December 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

OK so heres the thing yes ECM is outa wack right now, but before ssrms were outa wack, this is just how games work. Even if the game was 100% balanced people would still cry fowl and say one tactic reigns supreme, and yet in a few months that tactic would be pretty butt. Take Starcraft when people found zerg rush was the thing to do everyone hopped on it, it became the only way, but people found out how to beat it, and then MM became the thing, thats how good games work, every tactic can be taken countered. See the beta at the top of your screen, that means the devs are working on the game... that means the game isnt balanced. ECM will get toned down and as soon as it does people will latch onto something else and claim it to be the new king of MWO which it wont be at least not for long if the devs do their job well, which they have been doing, keep up the great work guys, dont let sarcasm or greifers get ya down!

You know what kills SSRM? Staying out of 270m range and hitting it with your choice of wep...

[Kaijin]

Rex Budman, on 09 December 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

You know what kills SSRM? Staying out of 270m range and hitting it with your choice of wep...

Same thing with LRMs. Taking cover from them and using avenues of approach that didn't expose yourself to them for any length of time. Or if you did have to venture into the great wide open, coming up with a strategy to confound the LRMs.

Now it's 2 crits and 1.5 tons and you can just turn off your brain.

I really don't know if I should be laughing or crying.

RIP MWO

[Tennex]

i thikn it would have been amazing powerful even if it just cloaked the light mech and nobody else. They need to split the group cloak into a different item that costs more tonnage.

all thse features for that tonnage is just overkill.


ECM mechs should be ghosts. right now they are motherships. SC2 reference

[Dasht e Lut]

Oh FFS!

If aimed weapons are easy-mode Mack then why don't you just use them and stop whining! (Yes, I'm referring to a previous post of yours...)

Newsflash! Special interest group lobbies for action!

Here's a wall o' text for you (because I've copied and pasted it. I'm quoting myself, this happened to me, this has been my experience):

"My most satisfying kill?

Last night, from over 700m away, I had my leg taken off in one shot by another mech. I was up on a hill (I think at E4/5 on Forest), behind some trees, and this mech fires once. BAM! Leg blown off! Hobble off of the hill and kinda hobble over to another hill after giving that pilot "WOW! Great shot!"

Standing up on top of the new hill looking at the same mech, well over 700m away. BAM! Cored by a single shot! Out of the match! (Of course I was out of the match once I had lost my leg. Hence the hobble to another hilltop.)

Two hits by, I think, an AC (got the ringing clank sound) and dead...

Oh, I was in a COM-2D with ECM.

Why was this other pilot's kill so satisfying? Because it puts to rest the stupidity of the "ECM has broken the game/is OP!" crowd...

As for my own most satisfying kill? Any kill I make and walk away from..."

Actually posted the above in another thread. Sorry for quoting myself but I didn't want to type all of that again.[/color]

As has been said again and again (and again...): Adapt.

Have you really ossified to the point that you can't change your tactics/loadout/playing with teammates? There are so many counters to ECM that it's just silly to whine about it!

ECM is fine. It's just a tool. I die regularly to LRMs and streaks. But mostly to ballistics. All I run are tricked out Commandos. If someone can't kill me quickly and easily, ECM or not, then the problem lies with the enemy pilot, not the gear.

Make whatever excuse you need to. But don't blame the weapon system for the lack of skill of the operator trying vainly to counter it.

In fact here's an idea so that you can continue to use your streakcat: Instead of all streaks, reduce the number by half and replace them with standard srms. That way you can have both locking capability (easy mode) with the streaks as well as the hard-hitting impact of a volley of srms! Best of both worlds! Woot!

Funny story: Friday night pugging. In a match and all of my team are down. Last one standing and the entire opfor is in the neighborhood. I'm already on the EB and I know that the enemy is coming for me. But honor must be satisfied!

Here they come. The first one to reach me? A Catapult!

Armed with nothing but streaks...

LMFAO!!! I completely ignored it! Must have pi*sed that cat driver off to no end! I just stood there watching him...

Shortly thereafter the rest of the team arrived and killed me with lasers, ballistics and srms...

Cheers!

Edited by Dasht e Lut, 09 December 2012 - 07:53 PM.

[DrBunji]

Mack1, on 09 December 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Dear Devs

Tonight I had so much fun playing MWO, it was brilliant. I was able to run directly to the enemy base almost every battle without having to worry about those nasty LRM boats, the skys were totally clear.

Another good thing was no SSRM's wow those nasty cats that used to jump on me really made me cry but now they have been bannished into the nasty pit, it makes the game so much safer. I no longer have to be scared of them, thank you

Before I go to bed to read my fairy tales and drink my warm milk I would like some advice on a new Mech i am building. I am thinking of putting 4 AC's on it but I am scared that some MWO players may commit suicide should they bump into me on the battlefield as I know from experience that when confronted with a mech that has formidable firepower they all cry rivers and run to the forums yelling CHEESE, CHEESE.

Maybe I should just put a few lasers on it and an ECM and join the other thousand people in the middle of the map rushing to eachothers base.

Anyway must dash

PEW PEW
Mack

I love the ecm but this post made me lol my arse off

[Rex Budman]

Dasht e Lut, on 09 December 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

Oh FFS!

If aimed weapons are easy-mode Mack then why don't you just use them and stop whining! (Yes, I'm referring to a previous post of yours...)

Newsflash! Special interest group lobbies for action!

Here's a wall o' text for you (because I've copied and pasted it. I'm quoting myself, this happened to me, this has been my experience):

"My most satisfying kill?

Last night, from over 700m away, I had my leg taken off in one shot by another mech. I was up on a hill (I think at E4/5 on Forest), behind some trees, and this mech fires once. BAM! Leg blown off! Hobble off of the hill and kinda hobble over to another hill after giving that pilot "WOW! Great shot!"

Standing up on top of the new hill looking at the same mech, well over 700m away. BAM! Cored by a single shot! Out of the match! (Of course I was out of the match once I had lost my leg. Hence the hobble to another hilltop.)

Two hits by, I think, an AC (got the ringing clank sound) and dead...

Oh, I was in a COM-2D with ECM.

Why was this other pilot's kill so satisfying? Because it puts to rest the stupidity of the "ECM has broken the game/is OP!" crowd...

As for my own most satisfying kill? Any kill I make and walk away from..."

Actually posted the above in another thread. Sorry for quoting myself but I didn't want to type all of that again.[/color]

As has been said again and again (and again...): Adapt.

Have you really ossified to the point that you can't change your tactics/loadout/playing with teammates? There are so many counters to ECM that it's just silly to whine about it!

ECM is fine. It's just a tool. I die regularly to LRMs and streaks. But mostly to ballistics. All I run are tricked out Commandos. If someone can't kill me quickly and easily, ECM or not, then the problem lies with the enemy pilot, not the gear.

Make whatever excuse you need to. But don't blame the weapon system for the lack of skill of the operator trying vainly to counter it.

In fact here's an idea so that you can continue to use your streakcat: Instead of all streaks, reduce the number by half and replace them with standard srms. That way you can have both locking capability (easy mode) with the streaks as well as the hard-hitting impact of a volley of srms! Best of both worlds! Woot!

Funny story: Friday night pugging. In a match and all of my team are down. Last one standing and the entire opfor is in the neighborhood. I'm already on the EB and I know that the enemy is coming for me. But honor must be satisfied!

Here they come. The first one to reach me? A Catapult!

Armed with nothing but streaks...

LMFAO!!! I completely ignored it! Must have pi*sed that cat driver off to no end! I just stood there watching him...

Shortly thereafter the rest of the team arrived and killed me with lasers, ballistics and srms...

Cheers!

Lol, easy mode indeed! Your post confirms it.

This game is AC/Laser spam. No tactics.

IGN; "MWO, the thinking mans shooter"... What thought process goes into variable lag timing, leading, no lock on tactics and lag shield lights with ECM bubbles?

And this is not easy mode?

This game is easy mode! MW4 had more tactics!

Dear Mr. RnG, May I use this weapon please?

RnG say, Maybe! Try your luck

Edited by Rex Budman, 09 December 2012 - 08:21 PM.

[Dasht e Lut]

Rex Budman, on 09 December 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

no lock on tactics

Lock on requires tactics?

Here is what I suggest: Buy a Commando 2-D. Add ECM.

Let me know how you do...

[Felix]

Dasht e Lut, on 09 December 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Lock on requires tactics?

More than a laser boat needs.

[Rhent]

Dasht e Lut, on 09 December 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Lock on requires tactics?

Here is what I suggest: Buy a Commando 2-D. Add ECM.

Let me know how you do...

Lock on doesn't require tactics, but avoiding a an easy to avoid attack, LRM, requires basic play ability. Something a lot of posters simply lack.

[Dasht e Lut]

Felix, on 09 December 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

More than a laser boat needs.

Hmmm... Let me see here... A laser, I have to aim. I have to hold it on my target for the duration of the beam in order to do damage to said target. I have to aim it where I want it to hit. And when I've fired it I have to then reaquire the target and aim the laser agian. Oh, and there's no gaurantee that I'll hit what I've aimed at...

A LRM: I have to lock up a target. If it's BVR then I need a teammate to lock that target or TAG that target and then I can fire and forget.

A streak I have to lock my own target! And then, when it's locked, I can hold down the mouse button and keep firing every time it cycles... The real challenge is locking the target in the first place, which really is no challenge at all. Once that's done...

And ballistic weapons? See lasers.

Learn some skills. Learn to play. Learn to shoot. Learn to use your eyes. Stop relying on the training wheels.

I do believe that there is a reason that no one, other than ECM nerfers (which are very few), are on this thread. I do believe that I'll follow suit.

Cheers!

[Kaspirikay]

ECM is great. For brawlers with low ping.

[SpiralRazor]

Demoned, on 09 December 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

lol good man XD
I to am loving ECM its great in a 3 man lance team

posted video as proof
a Atlas D-DC ECM ofc and a double LX-10 or somat he calls it the shotgun
a former streakcat now loaded with SRM4/6's
and me Hunch 4SP.

WARNING this video contains strong language



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I can see many people, like the above poster, are pretty much oblivious to satire.

[Wingbreaker]

Hooray, you captured a base versus a disorganized public game. Your satirical wit is poignant.