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[Mike McSullivan]

I prefer the MWO concept over the TRO3050 Artstyle. I hated it back in the days as i do now

[Pygar]

Armorpiercer M82, on 13 December 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

Am I the only one that think, the Stalker model is COMPLETELY messed up ?



1) upper torso - too high, should be much lower
2) nose - too small compared to conceptart it should be bigger, massive

whole mech look like catapult.

UGLY.

Yeah, Stalker is super ugly...has been ever since it hit the battlefield. If it looked more correct to original art, it would be even uglier- it always kinda looked like a blimp with legs. Now it has more pronounced arm/side torsos and looks a little bit like a big Catapult...which is perfectly ironic considering they can be fitted much the same way.

It doesn't matter if you think you wont buy it cuz it's ugly...you'll wanna buy one after you get tired of being curbstomped by them...Stalkers are ugly in more ways than just looks.

[Odanan]

Yes, the nose is smaller then the concept.

But as a Stalker pilot, I'm happy it won't be such a huge target.
And come on, PGI won me with that small cockpit (I was afraid if could be too much vulnerable as the Catapult's).

Now lets just wait for the torsos hit boxes... this mech is a monster (6x energy + 4x missile) and I'm afraid it will have some cons for balance...

[Mavairo]

I'm going to have an assault mech decked out in SRM6s. Doesn't matter what it looks like honestly.

"There was an Atlas there? Sorry didn't notice it infront of all my rocket smoke"

Edited by Mavairo, 13 December 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[MrTarget]

Congzilla, on 13 December 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

It is just the angle.

Your right, its just the angle. Have the 3D model and the concept drawing in the same position and I bet you that they will look the same.

[Voridan Atreides]

I find it pretty ugly...but then again I love the phract and it isnt exactly all roses and good smelling bath salts...

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 13 December 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

Yes, the nose is smaller then the concept.

But as a Stalker pilot, I'm happy it won't be such a huge target.
And come on, PGI won me with that small cockpit (I was afraid if could be too much vulnerable as the Catapult's).

Now lets just wait for the torsos hit boxes... this mech is a monster (6x energy + 4x missile) and I'm afraid it will have some cons for balance...

Oh, I will drive it, but I still would love a more "brutish" snout. The tiny cockpit is a plus though. Just wish the feet weren't equally tiny.

[Arkmaus]

Taken from Coret Trobane in the "Announcement Forum" (his Photoshop edit), THIS is what the Stalker should look like:

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Pygar, on 13 December 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Yeah, Stalker is super ugly...has been ever since it hit the battlefield. If it looked more correct to original art, it would be even uglier- it always kinda looked like a blimp with legs. Now it has more pronounced arm/side torsos and looks a little bit like a big Catapult...which is perfectly ironic considering they can be fitted much the same way.

It doesn't matter if you think you wont buy it cuz it's ugly...you'll wanna buy one after you get tired of being curbstomped by them...Stalkers are ugly in more ways than just looks.

look at that picture... you can see snow almost all the way through the torso where it joins the hips

[Magik0012]

I wish they would show it next to a Cat.. I'd like to see a size comparison.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Odanan, on 13 December 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

Yes, the nose is smaller then the concept.

But as a Stalker pilot, I'm happy it won't be such a huge target.
And come on, PGI won me with that small cockpit (I was afraid if could be too much vulnerable as the Catapult's).

Now lets just wait for the torsos hit boxes... this mech is a monster (6x energy + 4x missile) and I'm afraid it will have some cons for balance...

Yeah I cant wait to see the streak srm2 variants -.- given that everyone runs ecm so lrms are a bit useless

[Elyam]

I would have accepted something closer to the original as well, but I think the MWO redraw of the Stalker is just fine. Looking foreward to trying the 85-ton heavy Catapult.

[Tennex]

I think this poll is a bit skewed. One of the choices is a bit emotion charged.

The stalker has always been ugly


But what do you guys think it should look like ? Made a poll here:


mwomercs.com/forums/topic/83401-stalker-from-concept-art-or-current-model/

Edited by Tennex, 13 December 2012 - 08:58 AM.

[Pygar]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 13 December 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

look at that picture... you can see snow almost all the way through the torso where it joins the hips

Yeah, that's just a modeling bug tho, they'l fix that.

As far as everything else, the Stalker was always a notorious "ugly duckling" mech, so kinda funny to see a "OMG it's so ugly!" thread for it already.

[Zynk]

I think the body should have a more rounded (bullet) shape/longer and the feet (IMO) would look better if they where slightly larger and also round closer to the Sarna art.

Also voted yes & no because it was an option.

[Arkmaus]

Pygar, on 13 December 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Yeah, that's just a modeling bug tho, they'l fix that.

As far as everything else, the Stalker was always a notorious "ugly duckling" mech, so kinda funny to see a "OMG it's so ugly!" thread for it already.

"Ugly" and incorrect are too different things. People are actually commenting on how the model looks bad, not the Stalker itself as a battlemech.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Arkmaus, on 13 December 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

"Ugly" and incorrect are too different things. People are actually commenting on how the model looks bad, not the Stalker itself as a battlemech.

Yeah the original is a bullet glued to a box on legs.
This is a big catapult

[MoonUnitBeta]

Thontor, on 13 December 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

It's the angle.. The concept is viewed from slightly above, the game screenshot from slightly below.. The perspective of the second picture makes it seem like the arms are higher, but they really don't appear to be

http://mwomercs.com/...assault/stalker
Arms not level with the top torso. they look too tall.

The torso for the in-game model is longer on the Y axis. Like it's getting stretched vertically and they added some sorta step that the torso sits on before it touches the hips, and the bottom of the center torso where it comes up form the hip to the nose is far steeper angle.
The concept is shorter and stalkier, and the main torso is closer to the hips. The center torso in the concept starts off more like a curve and eventually makes it's way up to the nose. I think this is the part that is making people tihnk the nose is bigger, where it's just the way they modeled differently how fast the nose comes to a point. It's more blunted in the concept. I like that better.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 13 December 2012 - 09:05 AM.

[Pygar]

Arkmaus, on 13 December 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

"Ugly" and incorrect are too different things. People are actually commenting on how the model looks bad, not the Stalker itself as a battlemech.

Yeah, I know...but the original wasn't any prettier, so I don't comprende the griping. If anything, it looks taller...which was probably a game play balance decision- so that it is distinctively bigger than a Catapult.

[Penance]

catapult sr.