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[Rhent]

Matchmaking needs to take ECM into account for PUGs end of blanking story. ECM is about as OP as possible and completely shut down weapon system. Make it where at the most, the ECM imbalance is 1 ECM. So if your team has no ECM's, the other team can have up to 1 ECM.

Its getting extremely old fighting a team that has 4 ECM, while your team has 0 ECM. The other team with the 4 ECM's have NO DISADVANTAGE, they lost 1 1/2 tons to use ECM and Jesus ******* Christ do they have an advantage over a team with ZERO ECM.

[NeonKnight]

WOW! All I am hearing in sooo many threads is: "PGI, I cannot play this game as a SOLO player. My Skills Suck, please dumb dumb everything for everyone else so my SUXXOR is so suxxor!"

[Rhent]

NeonKnight, on 15 December 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

WOW! All I am hearing in sooo many threads is: "PGI, I cannot play this game as a SOLO player. My Skills Suck, please dumb dumb everything for everyone else so my SUXXOR is so suxxor!"

All I'm reading is someone without a clue. If you play vs a team that has 4 ECM compared to your 0 ECM, unless you are a playing a Brawler or another ECM, you are pretty much over. I'm getting extremely tired having to play:
Raven 3L + ECM
Ilya Ultra/AC 5 LL boat
Cat SRM Boat

To compensate for the most Overpowered Piece of crap implementation of a game mechanic (ECM), I've ever seen.

[NeonKnight]

Rhent, on 15 December 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

All I'm reading is someone without a clue. If you play vs a team that has 4 ECM compared to your 0 ECM, unless you are a playing a Brawler or another ECM, you are pretty much over. I'm getting extremely tired having to play:
Raven 3L + ECM
Ilya Ultra/AC 5 LL boat
Cat SRM Boat

To compensate for the most Overpowered Piece of crap implementation of a game mechanic (ECM), I've ever seen.

I often play on teams with NO ECM...frankly, don;t put all your eggs in one basket or learn how to deal with htem.

[Rhent]

NeonKnight, on 15 December 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

I often play on teams with NO ECM...frankly, don;t put all your eggs in one basket or learn how to deal with htem.

Its called ECM preventing any form of a Lock On. Even if you run TAG, it is NO HELP, once a light w/ ecm closes in on you. Its a problem that the developers have no clue how to deal with.

[Tastian]

Elite groups and clans have no problem with ECM. Hence all the "L2P noob" responses. However, PGI is so interested in getting new players they have even suggested 3rd Person Camera View. If they are so interested in new players, why do they make it so freakin impossible for them with their terrible trial mechs, lack of any solo training drop missions, and frustratingly hard to counter ECM mounts (on non trials).

And the other response of "get your own ECMs on your team and communicate" is getting old as well. This attitude is why we see more and more Raven 3L's and DDC's.

[Prophet of Entropy]

Rhent, on 15 December 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Its called ECM preventing any form of a Lock On. Even if you run TAG, it is NO HELP, once a light w/ ecm closes in on you. Its a problem that the developers have no clue how to deal with.

its called not relying on lock on weapons. ecm is nice but not OP

[Rhent]

Tastian, on 15 December 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Elite groups and clans have no problem with ECM. Hence all the "L2P noob" responses. However, PGI is so interested in getting new players they have even suggested 3rd Person Camera View. If they are so interested in new players, why do they make it so freakin impossible for them with their terrible trial mechs, lack of any solo training drop missions, and frustratingly hard to counter ECM mounts (on non trials).

And the other response of "get your own ECMs on your team and communicate" is getting old as well. This attitude is why we see more and more Raven 3L's and DDC's.

I'm frankly sick and tired of my Raven 3L. I never liked Streaks and thanks to ECM, I have to use the GD things now. Or gee, I am forced to play a lumbering slow *** brawler Atlas DC, again NO FREAKIN thanks. Pirahna eliminated Streaks and LRM's from the game if there is a huge ECM imbalance, but the lead game designer has no effin clue. He needs to be forced to PUG 100 games and try to play as a LRM focused mech (2 LRM 15s) plus whatever else he wants to use. Please put me in as his counter team. I'll run Raven 3L's and kill him repeatedly with extreme glee till he goes: "OOPs, my bad".

[Rhent]

Prophet of Entropy, on 15 December 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

its called not relying on lock on weapons. ecm is nice but not OP

ECM is OP when your team has 0 ECM and the opposing team has 4 ECM. Why?

-Your teams lock on weapons will not work. Why? You send in your 2 ECM equipped scouts to harrass them.
-The opposing teams lock weapons work fine and can kill you and you have no way to return fire with your own lock on weapons

What you see now is the game resolving down into a Short Range Brawl Fest to compensate for ECM. The game is **** now. Might as well play Halo. With how the idiots implemented ECM they killed the games long term prospects.

[NeonKnight]

Rhent, on 15 December 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

I'm frankly sick and tired of my Raven 3L. I never liked Streaks and thanks to ECM, I have to use the GD things now. Or gee, I am forced to play a lumbering slow *** brawler Atlas DC, again NO FREAKIN thanks. Pirahna eliminated Streaks and LRM's from the game if there is a huge ECM imbalance, but the lead game designer has no effin clue. He needs to be forced to PUG 100 games and try to play as a LRM focused mech (2 LRM 15s) plus whatever else he wants to use. Please put me in as his counter team. I'll run Raven 3L's and kill him repeatedly with extreme glee till he goes: "OOPs, my bad".

So, basically like I said; "fix the game to MY style of play!"

[Rhent]

NeonKnight, on 15 December 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

So, basically like I said; "fix the game to MY style of play!"

Nope, its called FIX MATCHMAKER so you don't have 0 ECM v 4 ECM. Reading is Fundamental.

[Tickdoff Tank]

Most of my mechs mount direct fire weapons and ECM is not a big deal. It is not hard to find a target and shoot it, even at range. It is easier when you have the ECM advantage, but it is not hard to beat a team that has more ECM than you do. And I am talking about PUGs here. Sometimes you get rolled by a team with ECM, and sometimes you get roled when you have the ECM and they don't. Stop blaming ECM for all of your losses, it is not accurate and makes you seem like a weak pilot.

Rhent, on 15 December 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Nope, its called FIX MATCHMAKER so you don't have 0 ECM v 4 ECM. Reading is Fundamental.

If they did that then you would have to find another excuse for the people that are killing you so much. Hint: it is not just ECM that is causing this.

Edited by Tickdoff Tank, 15 December 2012 - 07:17 PM.

[Wraith05]

Rhent, on 15 December 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Its called ECM preventing any form of a Lock On. Even if you run TAG, it is NO HELP, once a light w/ ecm closes in on you. Its a problem that the developers have no clue how to deal with.

It's a problem you as a player don't know how to deal with.

Do not make your mech 100% lockon weapons. You should take backup weapons or expect to become useless when your hard counter is used.

[Rippthrough]

Yeah, I just played 4-5 matches where our team had no ECM, generally I averaged about 4 kills.

ECM's aren't an issue.

I wasn't in a brawler, I wasn't in a Raven, I wasn't in a D-DC.

Edited by Rippthrough, 15 December 2012 - 07:22 PM.

[Rhent]

Tickdoff Tank, on 15 December 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Most of my mechs mount direct fire weapons and ECM is not a big deal. It is not hard to find a target and shoot it, even at range. It is easier when you have the ECM advantage, but it is not hard to beat a team that has more ECM than you do. And I am talking about PUGs here. Sometimes you get rolled by a team with ECM, and sometimes you get roled when you have the ECM and they don't. Stop blaming ECM for all of your losses, it is not accurate and makes you seem like a weak pilot.



If they did that then you would have to find another excuse for the people that are killing you so much. Hint: it is not just ECM that is causing this.

First, quit trolling writing flame bait.
Second, its called Fix Matchmaker. You do not put in PUG fights that are 0 ECM vs 4 ECM.

I'm frankly getting tired of having to make the choice of run ECM or run a Brawler Build because there is a good guarantee my group will have 0 ECM and the opposing team will have 4 ECM.

If you have something productive to write rather than an attack on someone, please do. Otherwise shut the **** up.

[Wraith05]

Rhent, on 15 December 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Nope, its called FIX MATCHMAKER so you don't have 0 ECM v 4 ECM. Reading is Fundamental.

That's an easy fix you can do yourself. I have 2 options for you:

1) take ECM yourself if you want at least 1 ecm on your team instead of relying on randoms.
2) Join a team prior to drop. (this one is my prefered).

[NeonKnight]

Wraith05, on 15 December 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

That's an easy fix you can do yourself. I have 2 options for you:

1) take ECM yourself if you want at least 1 ecm on your team instead of relying on randoms.
2) Join a team prior to drop. (this one is my prefered).

Actually you forgot Option 3...Quit playing

[UnseenFury]

Tastian, on 15 December 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

However, PGI is so interested in getting new players they have even suggested 3rd Person Camera View. If they are so interested in new players, why do they make it so freakin impossible for them with their terrible trial mechs, lack of any solo training drop missions, and frustratingly hard to counter ECM mounts (on non trials).

LMAO, kudos to you! Post of the day award.

[Rhent]

Wraith05, on 15 December 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

That's an easy fix you can do yourself. I have 2 options for you:

1) take ECM yourself if you want at least 1 ecm on your team instead of relying on randoms.
2) Join a team prior to drop. (this one is my prefered).

1.) Why should I have to take a piece of equipment and run a specific chassis that I have no desire of using because a piece of gear is necessary to play?
2.) Why should I be required to join a team for play? Joining a team is lame as hell. I have no desire to have that much of an advantage when playing. There is no fun when you can do that for a game that has no ranking, no battlegrounds, no PVP skill ups, no implementation of Factions.

Put in a real reason for group play and sure. But right now group play is a way to prop up poor players.

[Particle Man]

Unfortunately, whatever the devs do wont fix how bad you are at the game.