10 replies to this topic

[Fabian Wrede]

Tgher has been almost 3 months since ecm was intruduced and ecm dictatates who will winn.
team with most ecm will winn more tha 90% of all games and yet devs chose to ingnore this fact.

If this situation continue ther will be no point in going into full release since by the any but hardcore teams will have left for more fun games.

[Darius Deadeye]

They've commented on it a few times, yes.

Do YOU read the replies to the forums?

[Pando]

Thontor, on 17 January 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Yes

You beat me to the punch. Well played.

[Redshift2k5]

Of course they do. however, it would be unfeasible to reply to every ECM rant due to sheer volume, and it would be unfeasible to respond to any ECM rant until such a time as they have begun to discuss, internally, how they will move forward on the issue.

It would be useless for a dev to respond "ok we'll look into it" until such a time as they have anything solid to respond with; Keep you eye on the new Ask The Devs 'long answer format' coming soon. I bet ECM ill be one of the topics discussed there (because ECM is simply too big of a topic to discuss in anything outside of a long-answer-question that they have had time to prepare a lengthy statement for)

[warp103]

Thontor, on 17 January 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Yes

lol so both forum and facebook is a minority.I now know this will not end well.

Edited by warp103, 17 January 2013 - 02:18 PM.

[Cybermech]

we are not mainly testers.
but stats bringers....

[Rushin Roulette]

Redshift2k5, on 17 January 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Of course they do. however, it would be unfeasible to reply to every ECM rant due to sheer volume, and it would be unfeasible to respond to any ECM rant until such a time as they have begun to discuss, internally, how they will move forward on the issue.

It would be useless for a dev to respond "ok we'll look into it" until such a time as they have anything solid to respond with; Keep you eye on the new Ask The Devs 'long answer format' coming soon. I bet ECM ill be one of the topics discussed there (because ECM is simply too big of a topic to discuss in anything outside of a long-answer-question that they have had time to prepare a lengthy statement for)

I deffinitely agree with your post... all except for this one point

Redshift2k5, on 17 January 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

It would be useless for a dev to respond "ok we'll look into it" until such a time as they have anything solid to respond with

What would the point be if the devs wait until they have an answer to the question until they say "we are looking into it"?

The whole point of "we are looking into it" is to take heat off their own backs ahead of time while they can look for an answer behind closed doors .

What I would really like to see, is a list of current top priority features or items they are looking at for fixes (maybe top 10 or top 15 urgent ones). They dont even need to add details of why they are looking into them or how they are currently brainstorming at the moment... just a simple list would do to let people know their concerns are being actively addressed.

A smiple list of;

"We are currently focusing on the following points intensively for upcomming patches. We cant guarantee which patches these fixes can be implemented in, but be sure that it will be as soon as possible

Netcode optimization
ECM Balance
Mech Knockdown
Heat discipation
etc..."

This would go a tremendous way at cutting out loads of QQ threads about ECM/netcode being broken or the next doors Poodle being OP and the devs not listening to the community. If a QQ thread pops up, then the users or mods can point to the sticky and all is good.

Edited by Rushin Roulette, 18 January 2013 - 03:22 AM.

[Cybermech]

@rushin
http://mwomercs.com/...-command-chair/

if your finding it hard to search the forums you could just ask

There seems to be a lot of stuff the community is missing out on just by not reading the posts.

[Ranzear]

Glad to find these quotes. Speaking up brings back faith in them. Acknowledging that something is wrong with ECM is all anyone whining on the forum could have wanted, myself included. Letting the oft quoted stance of 'ECM is fine' from that interview stand for more than a month was a huge mistake.

So where were these buried? Whoever manages the forum is a sticky fanatic, so why don't they put these where we can see them (besides the command chair or ask the devs, which are stagnant as hell and part of the problem).

[Rushin Roulette]

@Cybermech

I know there is the Commandchair... but there are 21 seperately pinned topics in that section.... Too many seperate subjects and too little overview of what is actually currently important and what is less important in that mess. It kind of defeats the purpose of a sticky tag for posts if every single therad is sticked without exception .

That forum needs to be completely cleaned up and represented in a much cleaner and with a better overview. Removing every sticky tag and making a single new (sticked) thread with the list I mentioned above. If they have seperate threads from the currnetly stickied with more detail on teh issue, they can BB Code link in the post. That stickied thread is Locked and updated regularily as problems pop up and are fixed by adding/ removing the items on the list.

This way the users only have one complete overview to worry about and dont have to fight their way through ever increasing numbers of stickies with varying importance.

P. S. I looked through the Command chair forum again.. no such list with an overview exists, so my point still stands. The closest I can see is the "known problems" thread, but this doesnt really give any complete overview to anyone... just single points picked out of all currently known problems or issues.

Edited by Rushin Roulette, 18 January 2013 - 06:02 AM.

[Cerlin]

Sure they do. And they even answer questions, The first time. After that people are just ranting and they tend to not answer again. This includes answers in spoken interviews of which there are many. For example:

http://nogutsnogalaxy.net/

The last 10-20 have dev responses and feedback and while not all are as hard hitting as others, listen to this weeks Garth answer about ECM if your curious. So yeah they do answer, and they ignore repeat topics, as I would in their shoes.