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[Spinning Burr]

What is standard sensors range and what is it with BAP and advanced sensor module (stage 2) each giving 25% boost assuming they stack which I think they do? Can you detect out to 1200m w/o ecm cloak?

[Solomon Ward]

BAP also increases Sensor range by 25%.

Base Sensor range is 800.

So 1200m and 250m vs ECM cloak.(BAP doesn´t help here according to http://www.mwowiki.o...x.php?title=ECM)

Edited by Solomon Ward, 19 January 2013 - 07:05 PM.

[Valder]

And yes, I've detected that far w/o ecm cloak with BAP and sensor modules...

[Aurrous]

With a bap i can detect a mech at 1400m, with a bap and adv sen i can detect them up to 1750.
(longest i have seen held on my screen and allowed me to hold target..)

[Lukoi Banacek]

Aurrous, on 21 February 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

With a bap i can detect a mech at 1400m, with a bap and adv sen i can detect them up to 1750.
(longest i have seen held on my screen and allowed me to hold target..)

Still requires LOS right?

[Seth]

Take a look at the raw numbers. BAP increases the standard 800m sensor range by 25% (200m) to a max range of 1000m. The Sensor Module and Advanced Sensor Modules increase the standard radar range by 15%/25% (120m and 200m). The very most you should be able to detect someone from then is 1200 meters away if BAP doesn't take Advanced Sensor Module bonuses into account (800 + (800*.25) + (800*.25)) or 1250 meters if BAP/Advanced Sensor Modules take the other into account ( 800*1.25*1.25). If you could screen shot your 'Mech detecting another at >1200m I would very much like to see that and try to account for how that is happening short of a team mate detecting them for you and sharing the lock..

[Davers]

Seth, on 21 February 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

Take a look at the raw numbers. BAP increases the standard 800m sensor range by 25% (200m) to a max range of 1000m. The Sensor Module and Advanced Sensor Modules increase the standard radar range by 15%/25% (120m and 200m). The very most you should be able to detect someone from then is 1200 meters away if BAP doesn't take Advanced Sensor Module bonuses into account (800 + (800*.25) + (800*.25)) or 1250 meters if BAP/Advanced Sensor Modules take the other into account ( 800*1.25*1.25). If you could screen shot your 'Mech detecting another at >1200m I would very much like to see that and try to account for how that is happening short of a team mate detecting them for you and sharing the lock..

Yeah, it makes sense they bonuses would be added separately and not stacked.

[Khobai]

800m standard
+25% Advanced Sensor (1000m)
+25% BAP (1200m)

So 1200m maximum

[Aurrous]

There has to be a Bug with what im guessing is Scaleform (which i belive is what they use for HUD, and Direction meter at the top.).. some maps have different scales than others..
So the math seem to change from one map to another.. With bap and adv sensor i can lock on a mech 2500-2900M away on apline and hold target ( no LOS.) on River city i have done 1750, on Caustic Valley, and Forest Colloney i have done 1650.. It should be 1200, depending on the map, the ranges change..

Using an AWS-9M. BAP and ADV Sensor 1. Even if someone else had a lock, Another should not be able to lock at over 1200 meters.. (Granted you can not shoot someone 2400M out, but you can target them.)

The Term "Detect" is hard to Pin Point with group Targeting, and once you lock there is no way to tell if its a group lock, or a sigle lock, with Current indicators.. If you say "detecting" = "targeting" then its harder to prove what you are doing verses what it being done.. But i have lead to charge many times being the first one closest to the enemy and Targeted an emeny over what should be allowed..

If Group targeting is allowed at over 1200 meters, then group targeting should be allowed dispite ECM coverage based on 1 POV LOS, which does not seem to be the case..

They should make max targeting/detection 1200, and change the color of a Mutliple targeted Mech to another color.

Edited by Aurrous, 25 February 2013 - 12:16 PM.

[Aurien Titus]

Aurrous, on 25 February 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

There has to be a Bug with what im guessing is Scaleform (which i belive is what they use for HUD, and Direction meter at the top.).. some maps have different scales than others..
So the math seem to change from one map to another.. With bap and adv sensor i can lock on a mech 2500-2900M away on apline and hold target ( no LOS.) on River city i have done 1750, on Caustic Valley, and Forest Colloney i have done 1650.. It should be 1200, depending on the map, the ranges change..

Using an AWS-9M. BAP and ADV Sensor 1. Even if someone else had a lock, Another should not be able to lock at over 1200 meters.. (Granted you can not shoot someone 2400M out, but you can target them.)

The Term "Detect" is hard to Pin Point with group Targeting, and once you lock there is no way to tell if its a group lock, or a sigle lock, with Current indicators.. If you say "detecting" = "targeting" then its harder to prove what you are doing verses what it being done.. But i have lead to charge many times being the first one closest to the enemy and Targeted an emeny over what should be allowed..

If Group targeting is allowed at over 1200 meters, then group targeting should be allowed dispite ECM coverage based on 1 POV LOS, which does not seem to be the case..

They should make max targeting/detection 1200, and change the color of a Mutliple targeted Mech to another color.

I've been using BAP and Adv sensor range since they implemented them and there is no way you can target anything at 2500m by yourself. What you're getting is target info relayed by a friendly 'mech. That's the only way to lock targets beyond 1500m especially if you have no line of sight.

Edited by Aurien Titus, 01 April 2013 - 06:49 PM.

[Gruden]

The next time you think you have someone targeted at over 1200ish meter, untarget them. If the red triangle stays filled in, a teammate is probably giving you the info. If the triangle is hollowed out, that's something that you're seeing yourself.