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[Lightfoot]

Really? That's it? Earlier I read it was to have 5 Energy and 3 Missile and I was disappointed, but was willing to give it a try. Really though, just 3 Energy and 3 Missile? I can't support that, it's not a Hero Mech with so few options, stock variants are much better. Sad to say it, but ......DEAL!!

Okay, I take it back. An Assault with 200-235% of torso twist is very special.

Edited by Lightfoot, 05 February 2013 - 04:26 PM.

[Like a Sir]

HighTest, on 05 February 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Well, before the patch dropped, I was planning on buying PB. I was saying to myself "as long as the hardpoint setup doesn't suck too badly, I'm buying it." This would have been my first Hero mech as I was waiting specifically for the Awesome to come out with one. I even purchased the MC in advance to prep for it.

After seeing the hardpoint layout, at best I'm 50/50, and probably leaning towards No. Really? Two torsos the size of barns and I can only fit one weapon system in each? Two missile hardpoints on the left arm and 1 energy on the right -- that's half my hardpoints. So much for torso twisting to use an arm as a shield.

I like the speed. Heck, I even don't mind the paint job (it's garish, but I would expect no less given the mech's name. It's cool in an outlandish sort of way.) But the hardpoint layout is truly fail.

Guess I'll just buy an 8R and 9M instead and forego the CB Bonus. I'll probably make more CBills that way anyway since I'll have some weapons left to fire two minutes into the match.

Sorry devs. Not good.

I'm with this guy. I expected the 3 missile hard points in RT, like the 8V, was willing to settle for 2 and one in the arm... Even the way it is, if it had 1 more EN hard point I would pick it up, as it stands though... I really don't know... You gimped the hell out of this mech, just for 3 kph over the 9m with a 385xl... I am a huge AWS fan, have over half of my overall xp on them (around 500-600k), and I have a hard time justifying this... I just don't know who your target audience is for this...

[One Medic Army]

If I were to buy a Pretty Baby I'd probably end up running something like this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...501cab558506a07

[Lightfoot]

Thontor, on 05 February 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

disagree

the 4HPs in the CT simply gives you a choice, 2 one slot missiles, 2 one slot energy weapons, one of each, or one two slot weapon of those types

you still have 7 usable hardpoints, just like all the other Awesomes (up until the Pretty Baby anway, which only has 6 :confused:)

Well the PB has 200% Torso Twist, like 235% after upgrade, I could see firing 3xLRM15 over my shoulder while running away at 80kph could lay down some smack. 180% is lookin behind you right?

Technically I think the 9M needs an Omni-pod for the CT with 4 hardpoints and that's not canon until after the Battle of Tukayyid, 3052.

Edited by Lightfoot, 05 February 2013 - 04:23 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

I've been killing them pretty effortlessly in my knob.

It's ridiculous. That hardpoint layout makes them big gimps, with very limited firepower.

[Grimlox]

TwigTech, on 05 February 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Pretty much this. When I first saw the Pretty Baby's hard point layout my mind instantly jumped to the role of mobile missile platform. I won't be buying the mech, but I can appreciate its loadout.

Ya but 2 of the 3 missile hardpoints can only fire out of 4 tubes shared in 1 arm. It doesn't have enough tubes to fire out more than 1 LRM 15 in 1 wave. Any more requires more waves of missiles which is a bad characteristic for a missile platform if you ask me.

Must be why the stock loadout only uses 1 LRM 15. LRM boating also nullifies the one major advantage of the PB (room for big engine and more maneuverable than other awesomes). The mech's strength scream skirmisher but it's hardpoints don't scream anything. They meekly say you can use PPC's but only 2, you can use LRM's but only LRM15,

Here's how I would build it if they gave it to me for free.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2368bc75ef98c97

You can move quickly between cover and LLas targets then when the brawl starts you strafe in like a fast Dragon and unload SRM's and LLas. It's how I play my 9M:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c0d12949dc5d3c9

I'd much rather have the extra pinpoint accuracy of the 3rd Llas over the extra SRM's. I've done 1100dmg+ rounds before with the 9M so it can work.

[Carrioncrows]

I've been playing this mech since the patch came out. (4+ hours)

And I've got to say the more I play it the more I am disliking it.

it's a XXXXXXX travesty.

I've got all the hero mechs and enjoy them all, but when it comes to pretty baby I've got to say i think i made a big mistake in picking it up.

You simply can't fit enough firepower on the mech to make a difference.

The AWS-9M is VASTLY more superior.

You can put a 400xl in it which means you can have the firepower of a Raven-3L

3 mediums and a few streaks.

[Grimlox]

Lightfoot, on 05 February 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Well the PB has 200% Torso Twist, like 235% after upgrade, I could see firing 3xLRM15 over my shoulder while running away at 80kph could lay down some smack. 180% is lookin behind you right? Technically I think the 9M needs an Omni-pod for the CT with 4 hardpoints and that's not canon until after the Battle of Tukayyid, 3052.

200 degrees is the full range in both directions so 100 degrees each way you turn. Also 2 of the LRM 15's would have to be shooting out of tubes 4 at a time so it would take like 3-4 waves of missiles to release them all.

One Medic Army, on 05 February 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

If I were to buy a Pretty Baby I'd probably end up running something like this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...501cab558506a07

Make sure you up it to a 380 engine instead of 375 for the same weight. Also I wouldn't bother with Artemis as most of the missiles are firing out of tubes of 4 on the arm, only the one SRM6 would benefit and it's not worth the 3 precious tons for just that.

Edited by Grimlox, 05 February 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[WolvesX]

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

Wow! 30$

The hardpoints are serious crap.

Energy not aligned - head - left - arm. So bad.

15 pod torso, but only 1 missle hp.

2 missle hp in the arm, but only 4 pods.

Seriously.

This hardpoints are so bad. Wow.

Waste of 6000 MC, glad I didn't bought it, dispite the Awesome is my favorite mech (looks / style).

This thing needs a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR buff / rework!

XL 400 + 6 DHS = 47.5 tons. wow.

Please someone, tell me what to do with this.... garbage can.

Edited by Niko Snow, 05 February 2013 - 07:21 PM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

WolvesX, on 05 February 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

Wow!

The hardpoints are serious crap.

Energy not aligned - head - left - arm. So bad.

15 pod torso, but only 1 missle hp.

2 missle hp in the arm, but only 4 pods.

Seriously.

This hardpoints are so bad. Wow.

Waste of 6000 MC, glad I didn't bought it, dispite the Awesome is my favorite mech (looks / style).

This thing needs a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR buff.

XL 400 + 6 DHS = 47.5 tons. wow.

Please someone, tell me what to do with this.... garbage can.

become good with it, make dosh.

Simple as that... 30% extra c-bills after a match.

That's the "Buff" bro.

[Voridan Atreides]

Three energy and three missile hard points? They are all in weird places too. Not my kind of mech.

[Vassago Rain]

Pretty bad.
Knell has more actual firepower, I think.

They're both quite, quite terrible mechs.

[Voridan Atreides]

Jade Kitsune, on 05 February 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

become good with it, make dosh.

Simple as that... 30% extra c-bills after a match.

That's the "Buff" bro.

Good point. A good pilot can make this mech epic. Plus more c-bills.

Vassago Rain, on 05 February 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Pretty bad.
Knell has more actual firepower, I think.

They're both quite, quite terrible mechs.

What are the stock weapons on Pretty Baby?

[WolvesX]

Voridan Atreides, on 05 February 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Good point. A good pilot can make this mech epic. Plus more c-bills.



What are the stock weapons on Pretty Baby?

A good pilot can make a knell work... but this this is terrible.

30% not worth it!

[One Medic Army]

Grimlox, on 05 February 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

Make sure you up it to a 380 engine instead of 375 for the same weight. Also I wouldn't bother with Artemis as most of the missiles are firing out of tubes of 4 on the arm, only the one SRM6 would benefit and it's not worth the 3 precious tons for just that.

I used Artemis SRM4s on my Cataphract 2X, and it worked just fine.

[Vassago Rain]

Voridan Atreides, on 05 February 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Good point. A good pilot can make this mech epic. Plus more c-bills.



What are the stock weapons on Pretty Baby?

An LRM 15, SRM4, large laser, medium laser, and a single PPC.

[Lucky Noob]

Voridan Atreides, on 05 February 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Good point. A good pilot can make this mech epic. Plus more c-bills.



What are the stock weapons on Pretty Baby?

1 PPC 1 Llas 1 Medlas 1 SRM 4 LRM 15
19 Double Heats
Max Armor

Edited by Braddack, 05 February 2013 - 04:57 PM.

[Voridan Atreides]

WolvesX, on 05 February 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

A good pilot can make a knell work... but this this is terrible.

30% not worth it!

Yeah would not buy it.

Vassago Rain, on 05 February 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

An LRM 15, SRM4, large laser, medium laser, and a single PPC.

Braddack, on 05 February 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

1 PPC 1 Llas 1 Medlas 1 SRM 4 LRM 15
19 Double Heats
Max Armor

Thanks.

[Grimlox]

This mech would be fine if the arbitrary hardpoint setup wasn't so absolutely miserable. It has less hardpoints than ANY other assault mech including ANY of the other Awesome's. The HP's it does have are a terrible mish mash where the energy are on different aiming reticules, the Missiles lack enough tubes to fire even SRM6's in full waves and to top it all off one of the 3 (ONLY 3!?!) energy hardpoints is in the head and can only be 1 slot max.

If there were 3 energy in the arms and 3 missile in the torso (with 15 slot tubes on each) then the hardpoints wouldn't be any worse than the other Awesomes and you would be trading away 1 missile or energy hardpoint for the ability to cram a really big waste of tonnage engine in there. Even then it's a poor tradeoff but at least it might be worth considering. As it is now it's terrible.

And yes a good pilot can make it work, but they could probably make it work about 30% better in another awesome and negate the cbill bonus while saving $30.

[L1f3H4ck]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fb724554e988eb6

400XL
2 SRM4
1 SRM6
2 Large Lasers
1 Medium Pulselaser
4t Ammo
483/494 Armor
16 Double Heatsinks

Endo-Steel & Ferro-Fibrous

Works great so far.

Yes, I expected a better hardpoint config too, but imho, it's still better than the 9M.