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[Not a Number]

Description:
The middle SRM Launchers on the Mad Dog appear to have their Missile Tubes pointed upward like their LRM counterparts. This looks strange considering the direct-fire nature of SRMs, and is even more noticeable when equipping 2 or 3 SRM Launchers in the same Side Torso; the upper and lower ones are pointed forward as one would expect.

On the Stormcrow SRM Missile Tubes in the Side Torsos are pointed forward, while LRM Tubes are pointed upward.

Location:
Mad Dog - Side Torsos (middle)

Reproduction Rate:
100%

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Go to the MechLab.
2. Equip one or more SRM Launchers in either Side Torso.
3. You will notice that the middle SRM Launcher has its Missile Tubes pointed upward (see red squares in screenshot).

Evidence:
https://dl.dropboxus...6347/maddog.jpg

EDIT:

Expected behavior:
https://dl.dropboxus...og_proposed.jpg

Stormcrow for comparison:
https://dl.dropboxus...w_launchers.jpg

Edited by Not a Number, 25 September 2014 - 01:18 PM.

[Anarcho]

I think the torso plate can be in angle, but the tubes still fire it straight, its like the tubes are horizontally positioned, just the external plate in angle.

[RazorbeastFXK3]

I think it's just a cosmetic deal. When they put the image of the missile tubes on like a sticker to a part of the mech, they're going to appear different than if there was more detail involved with the sticker.
[EDIT]Just realized the link I posted first was a mini model of the mech instead of the video version so here's the video version of the Mad Dog aka Vulture http://img2.wikia.no...4_Justifier.jpg[/edit]
http://prometheusris...1/vulture07.png

So long as they still act how they're supposed to act I don't see a problem other than a pure cosmetic issue.

Edited by RazorbeastFXK3, 23 September 2014 - 02:10 PM.

[Kmieciu]

That's pretty sloppy for a $360 mech.

[Not a Number]

Anarcho, on 23 September 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

I think the torso plate can be in angle, but the tubes still fire it straight, its like the tubes are horizontally positioned, just the external plate in angle.

It's a little tricky to get a good view from the MechLab, but it definitely looks like the tubes are pointed up unlike the top and bottom launchers (which makes it look especially awkward). Though I agree the plate can be angled as long as the tubes are horizontal.

I'm quite sure it doesn't actually affect how SRMs are launched; the launchers are mostly cosmetic after all.

[Ghozzt]

Anyone who knows the Mad Dog well knows that this is a popular cosmetic detail all throughout lore. (Not every time but very often.) I personally do not mind it, I think it looks great.

[RazorbeastFXK3]

If they wanted to, I'm sure they could turn the side torsi into a staircase fashion http://3.bp.blogspot...0/one-tread.jpg so it's not smooth. That way all the faces of the stickers wouldn't be slanted anymore. Or maybe doctor the stickers so the missile tubes don't look like they'd launch your SRMs into the sky instead of straight forward.

[The Great Unwashed]

Well, the weapons visualization of MWO is just not making as much sense as it should. I think they should just draw each individual launch tube for each SRM and LRM and make sure it will fit on each mech (without looking silly). Now it's just a texture. Doesn't make sense that a Timberwolf gets these huge ears for a small launcher and the SCR can fit this tiny tiny tiny launcher in the side torso. Plus, 3x4 SRMs is 12 tubes = 2x SRM6 and could look the same. If you'd ask me I'd replace all missiles weapons by individual launch tubes so you could make an LRM17 or SRM5. #tubes is chassis dependent (LRM tube < SRM tube for balance).

I think that is work for the next Mechwarrior game though.

I do mind that all missiles launchers held in the arms of clan mechs do not look like the tube launcher that Thor carries on its shoulder; some indication that the same tech is used is nice. Vulture arms on the SCR... and so forth.

Edited by The Great Unwashed, 24 September 2014 - 08:19 AM.

[Not a Number]

Ghozzt, on 24 September 2014 - 06:28 AM, said:

Anyone who knows the Mad Dog well knows that this is a popular cosmetic detail all throughout lore. (Not every time but very often.) I personally do not mind it, I think it looks great.

I agree that the overall model of the Mad Dog looks terrific. It's not that the side torsos / missile pods shouldn't be pointed upward (they should), it's that the SRM missile tubes themselves don't seem to be pointed forward, which is strange for direct-fire missiles. In addition, this would cause the missile path to intersect with that of the top launcher.

The SRM launchers on the Stormcrow point straight forward, while the LRM launchers point up:

https://dl.dropboxus...w_launchers.jpg

But again, the launchers themselves don't necessarily have to point forward as long as the missiles themselves do:

https://dl.dropboxus...og_proposed.jpg

[Postumus]

RazorbeastFXK3, on 24 September 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

If they wanted to, I'm sure they could turn the side torsi into a staircase fashion http://3.bp.blogspot...0/one-tread.jpg so it's not smooth. That way all the faces of the stickers wouldn't be slanted anymore. Or maybe doctor the stickers so the missile tubes don't look like they'd launch your SRMs into the sky instead of straight forward.

Or have it smooth with only the missile tubes staircased. Probably look better.

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

naa, just mount them down the side of the CT like they do when 3 LRM launchers per side are fitted but point them forward, just seems easier