42 replies to this topic

[Franchi]

With Elo I expected my KDR and W/L ratios to start to even out, instead my KDR is climbing, it was stable pre Elo it would go up or down by .03 or so depending on the day now its up .10 today Given the number of games played pre-Elo that is a MASSIVE swing for such a short time . I never bothered to calculate my W/l ration tho I suspect it has gone up as well.


I am wondering if anyone else has notices this.

[zverofaust]

Prior to Elo I had high KDR >3.7 but low win loss (more losses than wins).

Now I'm getting lots of wins. KDR is still stable/going up a bit.

[Davers]

Maybe you play with really bad teammates?

[Bguk]

Bacon and sausage on an everything bagel. So tasty.

Edited by Bguk, 21 February 2013 - 03:53 PM.

[Znail]

zverofaust, on 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Prior to Elo I had high KDR >3.7 but low win loss (more losses than wins).

Now I'm getting lots of wins. KDR is still stable/going up a bit.

If you had bad win/loss ratio before then your Elo will be low now and thus you are getting easy opponents.

[Franchi]

zverofaust, on 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Prior to Elo I had high KDR >3.7 but low win loss (more losses than wins).

Now I'm getting lots of wins. KDR is still stable/going up a bit.

seems consistent with my experience, was 4.2 now 4.3 my win loss is also high at 3.7

I thought the entire purpose of Elo was to give us a 50.50 W/L ratio, or close to it I seem to be having the opposite experience.

[mattkachu]

poll made me want an egg mcmuffin from mic D's

[Franchi]

mattkachu, on 21 February 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

poll made me want an egg mcmuffin from mic D's

That was the entire point of those options, nah I just wanted a option for people who don't know their KDR or win loss, most people don't track them.

[Adridos]

I'm climbing so far on both accounts.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Since elo I've had a bunch of crazy games. Most (by a big margin) have been wins, and my KDR has ballooned a goodly bit.

[Budor]

Stays pretty much the same for me.

[Warrax the Chaos Warrior]

Franchi, on 21 February 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

seems consistent with my experience, was 4.2 now 4.3 my win loss is also high at 3.7

I thought the entire purpose of Elo was to give us a 50.50 W/L ratio, or close to it I seem to be having the opposite experience.

It will take time for everyone to reach their "natural" Elo rating. Play more games, they get more matching data.

[Gammanoob]

KDR is about the same, W/L is going down.

Honestly though it feels like I am ending up with a bunch of "high or decent Elo" players who then turn out to suck and die without even getting 100 in damage.

Hilariously they are often Founders.

[Davers]

Gammanoob, on 21 February 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

KDR is about the same, W/L is going down.

Honestly though it feels like I am ending up with a bunch of "high or decent Elo" players who then turn out to suck and die without even getting 100 in damage.

Hilariously they are often Founders.

Ever think maybe you are at the lower end of the spectrum?

But honestly, a little less Founder hate please.

[jper4]

kdr rising slowly- wins/losses about the same. of course i've been using my treb since Elo started instead of my hunchies so that could be a factor as well.

[Gammanoob]

Davers, on 21 February 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Ever think maybe you are at the lower end of the spectrum?

But honestly, a little less Founder hate please.

I have no idea since I can't see my Elo, but at the same time I figure if I am the only one on my team doing something right it is hard for me to prevail.

I feel like the problem with Elo at the moment(which I assume will be fixed with time) is that many people have inflated Elo from the days of "pug stomping" and if you luck out you end up playing with said players against those that have actually earned their rating.

Especially as a light mech pilot, if three out of four Atlai charge and die in 2 minutes, there isn't really much I can do other than either cap or try to take as many enemies with me as I can.

Also, I am not hating, merely commenting on what I notice.

Edited by Gammanoob, 21 February 2013 - 04:28 PM.

[zenlike]

My KDR is the same but I've been losing a lot more than I've been winning in the PUG and 4-man drops. I'm finding the my success is not really dictated by me but by the mid-level players on the team.



DISCLAIMER: I know that I am a cheese-DDC-driving, gold, scrub, pug-stomping hacker and this is my karmic fate for cheating so much. EDIT: Also, if I were any good, I should have killed the enemy team with only 288 damage (cockpit: 36hp).

Edited by zenlike, 21 February 2013 - 04:46 PM.

[Trufast]

As far as I can tell from the matchmaking post, your Elo is calculated only by winning or losing a game, and your Elo vs the other teams Elo. KDR, dmg done or assists have nothing to do with it. If you lost more than you won during the last 2 weeks, you will probably be placed below 1300, regardless of how much you contributed in those games.

So far Elo seems to be working fine for me, the games are often even and challenging, and generally I meet premades if I am in a premade.

[Gammanoob]

zenlike, on 21 February 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

I'm finding the my success is not really dictated by me but by the mid-level players on the team.

Same, some games I seem to end up with great teammates then I have five rounds where everyone else on my team dies before three minutes have passed.

I mean I am all for self reflection, but I am not sure what I can do about that.

Apart from starting to herd cats...

[zenlike]

Also, it's mathematically impossible for the results of this poll to be accurate. If one person's KDR or W/L goes up, another person's must go down. So the number of people going up *must* be equal to those going down.