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#21 Davers

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 21 February 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

The game you are playing right now will be the game we are playing for at least another 3-4 months.

More like 12 months. They would have had to have the Clan mechs done, and tested for movement problems, and be working on Clan weapon balancing since Open Beta for it to be 4 months.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostDavers, on 21 February 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

More like 12 months. They would have had to have the Clan mechs done, and tested for movement problems, and be working on Clan weapon balancing since Open Beta for it to be 4 months.


Which is very possible. I highly doubt it took them almost 2-3 months for each new mech. Me thinks they have been creating clan mechs the same time as IS mechs and sand bagging them. It was also be really really stupid if they did the clan release like they did with IS schedule.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostFrDrake, on 21 February 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Clans are facebooking about their impending invasion right now.

They found out that the Chinese hacked Facebook, so they planned an invasion of China first. It has delayed the invasion of the IS until such time that the Chinese threat is eradicated.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 21 February 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:


Which is very possible. I highly doubt it took them almost 2-3 months for each new mech. Me thinks they have been creating clan mechs the same time as IS mechs and sand bagging them. It was also be really really stupid if they did the clan release like they did with IS schedule.

Remember how the Cataphract needed tweaks the day it came out for it's head hitbox and the screwy torso twist that allowed you to shoot yourself (or some such thing)? I doubt they were sitting on it for long.

I imagine Clan rollout would actually be very similar- One of each weight class to start and then new mechs (prolly at a faster pace than now) every month.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:59 PM

Experiencing War Ship issues here on Huntress. Flights delayed until K-F Drives are repaired, don't expect us anytime soon ;)

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

View PostDavers, on 21 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Remember how the Cataphract needed tweaks the day it came out for it's head hitbox and the screwy torso twist that allowed you to shoot yourself (or some such thing)? I doubt they were sitting on it for long.

I imagine Clan rollout would actually be very similar- One of each weight class to start and then new mechs (prolly at a faster pace than now) every month.


The four mechs make sense. The Cataphract is a different issue though as it was one of the mechs they were releasing so they had less time to go over it with a fine tooth comb, where as they will have waaaaay more time to tweak the clans, that is if my theory is correct.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

There was another thread on this, but if you go by lore, the IS didn't get their hands on Clan tech till about 2 years after the invasion. So, PGI has some time still...

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

View PostMax Grayson, on 21 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Apologies if this has been addressed already. But did PGI change the timeline yet or reset the timeline back to 3049. Cause its almost March and I have doubts that the clans are coming on time :)


What others have said... The clans may "arrive" in march, but that they probably won't be included in any gameplay until mid-year at the earliest.

My hunch is that we'll see them initially in CW as some kind of non-player opponent. We won't be able to pilot clan mechs or have access to clan tech for a long long time (think 8+ months down the road at the earliest).

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

So what if clans have entered the periphery of Inner Sphere space ... there is no guarantee that any of the mercenaries playing in MWO are located anywhere near where the clan invasion is beginning. Just because they have appeared many jumps away doesn't mean you will get the opportunity to engage them any time soon.

From a design perspective, allowing players to fight with clan mechs and choose to play IS or clan will have a number of headaches. Clan mechs and tech are all better so the only way to balance matches in MWO will be to have clan teams drop with fewer mechs. I don't think it will make much sense to have much clan tech on IS mechs for a long time since there aren't that many engagements where the clan loses and salvage is possible.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

I converted all the Battletech novels to raw text and extracted Jan-April 3050 dates.

I just want to make the people whining for clantech to realize that by Jan 3051 (FIFTY ONE) the Innersphere had a total of 16-20 scrap Omnimechs/Parts and Hohiro Kurita captured "Four of your frontline BattleMechs and two dozen of your power-armored suits."

Clan tech could reasonably be limited to a Jan 15th 3051 (The day that Wolf's Dragoons called the InnerSphere together and spilled the beans) release and still stay with canon. Prior to that even Victor Steiner-Davion barely even understood that part of the reason the Clans were so strong was double heat sinks.

(from Sept 3050 on Twycross)
Victor nodded. "Yeah, there's no denying they run cool. I've already had a preliminary report on a heat sink taken from one of their machines. They have some sort of doublechambered heat exchanger and a fluid with a thermal retention factor that's seven-tenths of air itself! The Techs think those units, which are about the size of our own heat sinks, probably are 150 to 200 percent more efficient than ours."


JumpShip Dire Wolf
Star's End, Periphery
15 January 3050
The sour smell of sweat-drenched sheets met Phelan Kell as he fought his way to consciousness through the black fog filling his mind. Thousands of questions asked in hundreds of different ways by a legion of voices continued to echo through his brain. In counterpoint, he heard a single, agonized voice answering them again and again, and in the end, always surrendering valuable truths. Like the stench of his bedding, Phelan recognized the voice as his own.

(This was as he recovering from Clan Chemical Interogation)

Orbital Space, Thule, Rasalhague Province
Free Rasalhague Republic
7 March 3050
Tyra Miraborg glanced at the auxiliary monitor on her cockpit control monitor. It showed a small icon representing her Shilone fighter dead-center on the screen and slowly rotated a vector-graphic sphere around the craft. Three small triangles with identification tags appeared near her ship to mark the position of her wingman and the other two pilots in her flight. Further on along her line of flight, a large orb remained tantalizingly distant.

Turtle Bay
Pesht Military District, Draconis Combine
30 March 3050
Smoke coiled like oily black ropes against the red dawn sky. Scanning the horizon, Yodama knew it was more than just the heat churning out of his Phoenix Hawk's fusion reactor that made the sweat pour down his face. First Battalion must be in the fight of its life! If that's the petrochem refinery burning, it means they've fallen back to their final line of defense. He pushed his 'Mech forward, but only with the most powerful sense of doom.
As the disk of the sun appeared over the line of low hills between Shin's forward lance and the First Battalion's last stand, it flooded his infrared scan with white fire and so he shifted sensor modes over to vislight. While the computer was cycling through, a quick flash on magscan made him punch a button and switch the scanners back to magnetic anomaly detection. The computer painted, plain as day, humanoid silhouettes against the background of the vectorgraphic landscape.
Shin stared at the display. Another puzzle. They've given this flank over to infantry in metallic IR-baffling equipment! Shin opened a radio link to Hohiro Kurita. "Sho-sa, I have infantry detected on magscan at 500 meters. We have been anticipated." He keyed a feed of his sensor data over to Hohiro's Grand Dragon.

Trell I
Tamar March, Lyran Commonwealth
13 April 3050
Kommandant Victor Steiner-Davion ducked his Victor and sidled it left through the subterranean lagoon as the raider 'Mech stabbed its left weapons pod at him. The Marauder-type pod spat the artificial lightning of a particle projection cannon. The azure bolt sizzled over the Victor's right shoulder, drilled into a massive icicle clinging to the cavern ceiling, and split it with a thundercrack.
Despite the frost covering his Mech's viewplate, the intense blue of the energy weapon lit his cockpit like a strobe. Concentrating on the computer-created landscape of magscan data, Victor dropped his autocannon's gold crosshairs onto the enemy 'Mech's outline and punched the trigger button with his thumb. There was a loud scream like that of some mechanical banshee, and then Victor saw his volley hit its target.


ComStar First Circuit Compound
Hilton Head Island, North America, Terra
15 April 3050
Myndo Waterly directed the attention of the Precentors to the center of the chamber. "We received this transmission from our facility on Balsta yesterday. I have reviewed it once and now present it for your edification. The message is relatively short, and in the Precentor Martial's style, somewhat succinct."
She clapped her hands once, sharply, and the lights in the bowl-shaped chamber dimmed. Directly above the gold-star insignia of ComStar worked into the floor, the image of the Precentor Martial flickered to holographic life. The image only showed him from the shoulders up and had been so enlarged that his eyepatch was the size of an aircar's steering wheel.

Edo, Turtle Bay
Pesht Military District, Draconis Combine
16 April 3050
Shin Yodama clutched the threadbare blanket tightly to himself. The sewer's damp chill soaked up into him through the stone ledge where he sat. Moisture condensing on the tunnel ceiling dripped down with a dreadful monotony, but he tried to use it as a kind of mantra. Anything ... anything to take me away from this place.
Two men grumbling next to him broke his concentration. "Why do we follow the Old Man if he is content to keep us down here like rats? These invaders are not a storm that will blow over. I do not think the Old Man has the will to fight them."
"He may be content to die down here in the darkness," the other man said, "but I am not. I want to be staring up at the rings when I go."

Avalon City , New Avalon
Cruris March, Federated Suns
30 April 3050
Prince Hanse Davion leaned forward across the briefing table and stared at the holographic map of the Lyran Commonwealth. He reached over, took his wife's left hand in his right and gave it a reassuring squeeze. "Are you certain four more worlds are under assault? They only hit the first dozen two weeks ago! Is it possible?"
Justin Allard, standing halfway down the table, nodded slowly. "It looks as though the troops that conquer the worlds are not the same ones used to garrison the worlds. Once the populace is disarmed, the invaders are most willing to work with local authorities to maintain order. This frees up the shock troops to move on to hit forward targets."

TL;DR by Jan 3051 (FIFTY ONE) the Innersphere had a total of 16-20 scrap Omnimechs/Parts and Hohiro Kurita captured "Four of your frontline BattleMechs and two dozen of your power-armored suits."


(All information is quoted as review and analysis text, this is in accordance with copyright law)

Edited by Kylere, 21 February 2013 - 04:47 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

Sure they're coming. We'll be reading all about it...

#32 Parmeggido

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:40 PM

From ask the devs answers 31:
http://mwomercs.com/...e__pid__1863367

ThomasMarik - Since we are able to freely modify our mechs anyway; How are Omnimechs going to work?
A: At this point we are not ready to discuss Clan Technology. We are getting very close to a final design, so look forward to a more official announcement in April/May.

Edit: added ask the devs 31 - answers link

Edited by Parmeggido, 21 February 2013 - 04:42 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostTennex, on 21 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

they are definately not lol. clans are maybe a good 4 months after community warfare is released. and community warfare is probably a good 3 months from being ready.


Try a year.
Wasnt the quote on that "later this year" like everything else?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostParmeggido, on 21 February 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

From ask the devs answers 31:
http://mwomercs.com/...e__pid__1863367

ThomasMarik - Since we are able to freely modify our mechs anyway; How are Omnimechs going to work?
A: At this point we are not ready to discuss Clan Technology. We are getting very close to a final design, so look forward to a more official announcement in April/May.

Edit: added ask the devs 31 - answers link

Pretty sure the first official announcement about the Clans won't be, 'They are ready!' :)

#35 Peg Leg Pete

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

If they do delay the invasion, I really want them to just say. "OH Teh Noes!!!! A Temporal McGuffin Bomb was Detonated throwing the universe back a year in time! The year is 3049. AGAIN!"

QED

End of the conversation.

I think people would be much more willing to accept a one time reset of that scale as opposed to lengthy justifications and blah blah blah words.
Point out that it would be 3049 at the time of release, and we were in Beta. Game now released. Start your ... Calendar?

Just my opinion. Poop on it if you want.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostPeg Leg Pete, on 21 February 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

If they do delay the invasion, I really want them to just say. "OH Teh Noes!!!! A Temporal McGuffin Bomb was Detonated throwing the universe back a year in time! The year is 3049. AGAIN!"

QED

End of the conversation.

I think people would be much more willing to accept a one time reset of that scale as opposed to lengthy justifications and blah blah blah words.
Point out that it would be 3049 at the time of release, and we were in Beta. Game now released. Start your ... Calendar?

Just my opinion. Poop on it if you want.

The invasion can happen. We just won't be fighting it. All those other Mechwarriors who don't have 3050 tech and have to deal with outdated equipment will be fighting it, and dying in droves. I'm cool with missing the whole 'every match should be a massacre' thing.

I figure when the Clans become a little more 'settled' in the setting is when they will become available as a playable Faction instead of a boogeyman.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:20 AM

View PostPeg Leg Pete, on 21 February 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

If they do delay the invasion, I really want them to just say. "OH Teh Noes!!!! A Temporal McGuffin Bomb was Detonated throwing the universe back a year in time! The year is 3049. AGAIN!"

QED

End of the conversation.

I think people would be much more willing to accept a one time reset of that scale as opposed to lengthy justifications and blah blah blah words.
Point out that it would be 3049 at the time of release, and we were in Beta. Game now released. Start your ... Calendar?

Just my opinion. Poop on it if you want.


Why? Clan tech does not appear in the TT until 3051, making it 3049 would be stupid. Just because the Technical Readout: was dated 3050 does not mean that tech is available to the IS.

I love the utter insistance on 3050 when it simply is not an accurate date.

#38 Congzilla

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:26 AM

The Clan invasion is 5 waves and lasts all year.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:31 AM

Clans will come,but if they have to fight the same bugs as we do, then their invasion will not be that terrifying :P

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:39 AM

Everybody keep in mind that while the invasion may be scheduled for May, the war itself lasts a couple of years. I imagine it would be easy to say "Yes the Clans have invaded but all the mechwarriors of MWO are doing their thing far from the front lines of the Clan Invasion. You won't see them for a while yet." So basically the developers actually have a couple years to give us a taste of Clan action before the war ends. Heck, they could conceivably put it on hold until the Clan Invasion is put to an end, because the Clans don't just go away. They stick around. We'll probably get our clan mechs... eventually.





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