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[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

Strange occurence just now.



I'm in my Cataphract, Firing at a Stalker at close range. I've got Ac20.ERPPC, 2x SRM4, 12 DBLHsinks. I'm spamming the AC20 and PPC, but I'm not overheated. Just then, my head is fatally damaged due to an overheat that didn't yet occur.

I'm confused anyway.

[JadePanther]

looks like 3 of ur sections took heat damage.. both side torso's and ur head.

but the new heat overide system is a whole bunch of malarky.. they coulda broke something when they changed it.. so anythings possible.

[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

No, I was in a firefight at the time. That's where most of the damage likely came from. How much damage from the overheat? I'll not know, since it never overheated or shut down, it just exploded.

[CougChaos]

The same thing happened to me once. I didn't over heat and randomly blew up.



Happened on the 16th though.

[Monky]

Head seems the only way that I die when i override. Granted, I don't do it often. Part of me says it makes sense - the pilot turns into pork roast, another part of me says it's a bogus broken mechanic.

[DerHuhnTeufel]

I have randomly exploded from overheating at less than 50% heat before, so I know something is not tallying up correctly. It's only happened twice, though, and in completely different circumstances. I'm not sure what triggers it.

[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

CougChaos, on 21 February 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

aaaaaaaaaaa is right. I said all of that and more, plus expletives. I'm guessing you never shutdown or overheated, right? Just, "pop"!

Charbroiled Steiner merc. These things are a safety hazard.

Edited by ArchMage Sparrowhawk, 23 February 2013 - 12:33 AM.

[Xiang]

Maybe your heat was already high and you lost some heat sinks and since heat has a chance to crit, you took a crit and died?

Just a thought...

Xiang

[Rivqua]

Looking at the damage, it looks like a internal explosion that just spread. And the head has the least internals (15 vs perhaps 50 in CT), so it gives that the head would be the first to explode, as it would reach its limit first.

[Fiona Marshe]

Did you have ammunition stored in the head?

[Lightfoot]

I run 2x ERPPCs plus a Gauss or SRMs, 16-17 DHS. If I shutdown under fire I override and keep going with cooler weapons till temp drops down a bit. Never blown up from overheat.

Good point though, never put Ammo in head critical.

[Konner Duko]

only thing i usually put inthe head is ams ammo. i look at it if there is no lrm's being fired at me and the ammo goed i want to same engine damage and lesser repair bill. full ton of ams popping = death anyway so why not make it a quick one ( also i hate the popcorn sound it makes when going off)

just my thought on that

Edited by Konner Duko, 23 February 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[Tzukasa]

If you push O to override the shutdown cause you just need that one more hit to kill a guy well... pgi you Really messed that up it does WAY too much dmg. Seriously unless I'm overheating infront of an ac20 or a ppc'er it is seriously less dmg to just overheat sit there and let them beat on you lmfao. Come on pgi look at this it really is absurd how much dmg you take if you push O before you over heat to override it!

[Void Angel]

ArchMage Sparrowhawk, on 21 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

No, I was in a firefight at the time. That's where most of the damage likely came from. How much damage from the overheat? I'll not know, since it never overheated or shut down, it just exploded.

The thing is, you have internal structure damage in areas that still have armor on all sides. That's why they're thinking you took overheat damage - however, the overheat damage shouldn't deal damage your head any more than an ammo explosion. See if you can recreate, and post your screen shots as a bug report, I'd say.

[JadePanther]

Lightfoot, on 23 February 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

I run 2x ERPPCs plus a Gauss or SRMs, 16-17 DHS. If I shutdown under fire I override and keep going with cooler weapons till temp drops down a bit. Never blown up from overheat.

Good point though, never put Ammo in head critical.

no ur forcing the mech to power up after a critical saftey shutdown.. overriding would prevent that shudown from happening..

overriding is when u override the saftey shutdown and keep running past 100% heat.. of course since u've disabled the shutdown then any heat past 100% the heat damages internals and u run the risk of ammo explosions.

u can put ammo in the head just depends what u put there.. go with ammo that depetes very fast. running a ac/20 cat yea u can get away with it cause 3 salvos and it will be empty... gauss ammo doesnt explode so that would be just fine in a head slot. but a ton of AMS or MG ammo would be very bad..

ammo is used up from the head first.. then i moves right to left across the upper till it gets to the lower.. I'm not certain the xact pattern just that the head goes empty first and the left leg last.

Edited by JadePanther, 24 February 2013 - 02:03 AM.

[arghmace]

Very bad idea to put AMS ammo in head. It's the only critical item there so when an enemy crits you, it always hits the ammo. I put ammo in the head sometimes but it must be something you can shoot away fast.

[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

Fiona Marshe, on 23 February 2013 - 04:53 AM, said:

Did you have ammunition stored in the head?

nope, and no reportage of ammo explosions, or destroyed heat sinks, or criticals. And I have case in my right torso anyway. I was still in the fight. I was not badly damaged. My mech cockpit just exploded instead of overheating, even the once.

Any pilot that stores ammo in the head is either suicidal or desperate.

I think the doll in my image shows my external damage to my armor, orange and yellow. That's what it looks like to my interpretation...could be wrong. But it does say I took heat damage. It just never overheated or needed to be overridden. At the time, the only energy weapon was a PPC, and I had an AC20 and 2 SR4s. The one time the mech got hot enough to overheat, it exploded.

Edited by ArchMage Sparrowhawk, 24 February 2013 - 10:41 PM.

[Cest7]

Overheat causes a random roll for damage to a section.

This bypasses armour. Your roll was 18+dmg on the head section, causing catastrophic failure.

Happened to me once in my Jenner.