18 replies to this topic

[Fyrerock]

People find it hard to believe that I have PPC on my atlas, like it is something wrong they keep saying an atlas should have laser not PPC.

[Stingz]

Stalkers have better hardpoint layout for PPCs, high mounted arms to fire over hills with. The Atlas really needs it's arm lasers to catch fast mechs, PPCs are very hard to hit with on fast targets.

ERPPC Atlas have a bad habit of TKing at long ranges.

Edited by Stingz, 23 February 2013 - 10:52 AM.

[joedawg39s]

Because you can only mount 4 insted of 6 so you would have room for a backup weapon and we cant have that. Most likely because it will take away from the ballistic or missile hardpoints, if you like the build you have and you can put out damage don't feel like you need the same build as everyone else.

Edited by joedawg39s, 21 February 2013 - 07:37 PM.

[darkkterror]

Earlier today I refitted my AS7-RS to a 4PPC/1Gauss build with a XL 360 engine (I know, I know, XL engine in an Atlas lol). The inspiration for this was because of Alpine and how much I thought it might suck to pick my brawling D-DC and drop into such a huge map. The largest engine possible on an Atlas (64KPH baby!) and plenty of pinpoint long range firepower.

It's actually a lot more fun than I thought. I've popped quite a few Mechs now at long range with the combined firepower of 4 PPCs and 1 Gauss Rifle. It does really suck when a light decides to harass you, though.

Edited by darkkterror, 22 February 2013 - 08:48 AM.

[80Bit]

My 2xERPPC 2xPPC 1xGauss Atlas RS is hands down my top damage mech. 500+ is average (even in a losing match) and I have had several 900+ 5 kill matches.

I played a match in it just today where I got the last three kills while solo defending our base to win the match. It is better than a Stalker PPC boat because heat is not as much of an issue.

The only reason I don't play it more is the play style is fairly boring. I spend way more time in my faster mechs. I have one of each mech Chassis in the game and I would say this is the most overpowered of them all.

Edited by 80Bit, 21 February 2013 - 07:42 PM.

[Fyrerock]

Well my DC Atlas has 3 streaks to deal with lights, and it works real well for light mechs and damage mechs that are running away from me. And my other weapons is one ERPPC, one PPC and one gauss. I find having two ERPPC overheats my mech to fast and I need at least one ERPPC for alpine.

[One Medic Army]

I'll call the RS PPC+Gauss build viable, but god help you if you're not attentive or have bad aim.
All it takes is one decently fast competent light/medium pilot to ruin your day, though if you mount ERPPCs (and deal with the added heat issues) you can defend yourself better.

[Selfish]

I don't think many would see an issue with running 2x PPC's + AC/20. It gives you a direct alpha of 40 at 270m, and 30 at 540m. Would I use them on a mech that had it as their only energy? Probably not. The D and RS fit fallbacks well. PPCs are very powerful at gunning down fast movers, applying burst, pot shots, disrupting ECM, and crit-seeking. They're less than useful at face-hugging, and ERPPC's are rather hot to plug that hole.

My approximate D build uses PPC's. One of my first and favorite builds on the Atlas. It's a nice mid-range brawler, but don't run up into the face of an SRM brawler or something like that.

The reason PPCs aren't really seen often on Atlases is because x2 UAC/5 and the DC are more popular. The AC's take up the spare tonnage you would use on PPC's, and the DC doesn't have the hardpoints to fit fallback. UAC's provide better distance, the same potential burst, and overall better DPS.

[NRP]

Run whatever the hell you want and don't listen to people.

[Khobai]

IMO why wouldnt you use a PPC on an Atlas? Theyre amazing weapons now... better than most of the crappy autocannons.

[Kommisar]

Nothing is wrong with it!

If you boat them, you just run into the same problem as any other boat. You can get caught outside your comfort zone and hammered. If you don't like that, then just don't boat them and pick up one or two solid weapons instead. The Atlas arm issue is not nearly as bad as it once was. He is wide, though, so getting both arms to fire between close buildings is tough... but doable.

The 4x PPC Atlas works great on a team, though. My friend runs his (4xPPC and a Gauss) and I run bodyguard for him in a Cataphract. The combo can really tear people up and has surprised many a light or medium mech that thought they were getting a nice, easy close-in kill.

[chenkTheTank]

play the game how you want, not how other people tell you to.

[Kommisar]

Oh, I also play a 2xERPPC 1xGauss Atlas build from time to time. It doesn't have the BANG of 4, but I have better speed and a LOT more heat capacity to keep them thumping. Plus, the ERs help when someone gets in close. I can typically rack up over 500 damage per round in it with a good number of kills.

[masterojack]

maybe try 4ppc, 2 srm6. I run that on my RS with a 325 standard. Works great, no XL probs, and I can deal with smaller guys with srms

[Raso]

I saw this video back in the day. A PPC RS can be effective but I think the general concensious now is that there are other assult class mechs which do the whole PPC deal better. Maybe an RS with 2 PPC, some medium or large lasers and some other lose range weapons but I've never had any lock making an RS I liked so I'm not the right guy to ask.

Edited by Raso, 23 February 2013 - 06:27 AM.

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

I tried a PPC Atlas, but my aim's 50/50 with them. I'd still stick to it, but I get dropped against a lot of lights for some reason and lasers are just more effective for me.

[Konril]

Fyrerock, on 21 February 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

People find it hard to believe that I have PPC on my atlas, like it is something wrong they keep saying an atlas should have laser not PPC.

Fascinating. I have never heard people commenting on the one PPC I have on my D-DC. In fact, if someone comments at all, they find it hard to believe I managed to shoehorn both an Ultra AC/5 and a Gauss in the opposite torso.

My Atlas hasn't really left the mechbay since the last patch. I've been working on Trebuchet mastery most recently. But even before the PPC ECM countering ability it is a really good weapon to use. It's just that people really don't know how to use it properly. Or how easy it is to use properly, for that matter. (Oh and yes, one of my new Trebuchets has a PPC, too.)

[The Warspite]

darkkterror, on 21 February 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

Earlier today I refitted my AS7-RS to a 4PPC/1Gauss build

I have this as well and it's one of my best and most fun mechs to play. Occasionally, someone gets withing the 90m range and you're in trouble, but that doesn't happen too often.

[MacKerris]

I have tried all sorts of combos with the D. I have always wanted the PPCs to work right and they are close, oh so close now. My current build with my Founders is two ERPPCs, a Gauss, and 2 SSRMs for crowd control. While it's nothing special it is fun and I have done surprisingly well with it.

I have used the 4 ER/PPC R build as well as 2ERPPC and two LG Laser build. While the 4 is fun I found the erppc/LL more rounded for pugging if nothing else.