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[Markador]

I only sacrifice myself for the team if I'm playing with buddies, because I know they'll try to capitalize on it.

[Gaan Cathal]

DaZur, on 22 February 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

My team is chasing a scout around like a perverse mechanized Conga-Line...

As a (mainly) Light player, I'd just like to point out that unless the rest of your team was really bad, that scout was probably engaged in very useful self-sacrifice......

[Tarman]

The times it does work are glorious though. I've had a bunch of good scouty games lately even leveling a stack of COMs, surprisingly. I like the games where I can flank and pull a bunch of my guys down onto a loner who sees COM IMA EAT IT. He looks up and takes focus fire, while I drive behind to blast out the RCT or move to engage something else if he's obviously doomed. I don't even miss a kill in a situation like that, it's satisfying to hear them explode in the distance as I get back to it.

[DaZur]

Agent of Change, on 22 February 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

*Raises Hand* I volunteer you to an ignominius death that you will rush to on the assurance of my assistance and/or avenging wrath right up to the point you engage, I am distracted by a butterfly, or I remember that I really need to walk into a wall.

Voridan Atreides, on 22 February 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

lol so true.

If I ever find you two on my team I'm going to distribute Ginko Biloba and Ritalin just to try and keep you guys "focused"

[Hawkeye 72]

Youth, not self-sacrifice, is wasted on MWO

As in I continue to waste my youth hoping my teammates will get smarter

[Voridan Atreides]

DaZur, on 22 February 2013 - 08:14 AM, said:

If I ever find you two on my team I'm going to distribute Ginko Biloba and Ritalin just to try and keep you guys "focused"

BUT....I saw a BUNNY!......IT WAS A BUNNY!!!

[Eric darkstar Marr]

Welcome to pick up groups and why solo will one day be ELO hell.

[Tarman]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 22 February 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:

Welcome to pick up groups and why solo will one day be ELO hell.

Thanks for the morale boost mister happypants, but I think we're all fine with it in here.

It's the puglife, not everyone can hack it.

[Agent of Change]

Voridan Atreides, on 22 February 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

BUT....I saw a BUNNY!......IT WAS A BUNNY!!!

I assure you it was no.... SQUIRREL!

[buttmonkey]

the op is correct about the confusion and uncertanty of what to do when faced with a light.
this is why role warfare needs to be better, because if your whole team chses the jenner then your doomed but on the other hand if you ignore the jenner it can be fatal, i have had maches with the founders jenner 2srm4 (2 tons ammo), 3 medium lasers and 2 jump jets and done over 800 damage with that build. not that im boasting, just giving you an example of what ignoring a light can cost your team.

the point is that there should be more specific roles that can be figured into the match making system, so that you have a couple of mechs on team to deal with lights, so ssrms maybe or w/e and other mechs for other roles.

this would stop the whole team chasing the lights, it happens very often but shouldnt. if you were in tanks chasing around a guy in a humvee while people shoot at you with rpgs you would think god dammit your tanks leave that job up to something else. kinda feels that way when you get these drops sometimes.

i myself run a jenner and therefore are permitted to chase other lights ^^

[Stoicblitzer]

I had a game after Phase 3 came online where my team followed me (D-DC) and charged when I charged. I was shocked. It was so refreshing.

[Voridan Atreides]

Agent of Change, on 22 February 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

I assure you it was no.... SQUIRREL!

All I know was that it was fluffy. You know I cannot resist fluffy things!!

[DaZur]

Voridan Atreides, on 22 February 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

BUT....I saw a BUNNY!......IT WAS A BUNNY!!!

Agent of Change, on 22 February 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

I assure you it was no.... SQUIRREL!

"Damn-it you two... If you don't stop wondering off, I'm going to turn this Mech around and go back to base! I'm serious!..."



Man... I needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks guys!

[80Bit]

You are a clever fellow.

[Voridan Atreides]

Stoicblitzer, on 22 February 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

I had a game after Phase 3 came online where my team followed me (D-DC) and charged when I charged. I was shocked. It was so refreshing.

Its so relieving when you suggest a plan at the start of a game and people actually RESPOND! Even if its not an intelligent response. They are still communicating with you.

[DaZur]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 22 February 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:

Welcome to pick up groups and why solo will one day be ELO hell.

It may be hell... but we call it... "HOME".

[Elizander]

DaZur, on 22 February 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Scenario: Frozen City / They - High City Us - Low City
- They set of LRM encampment and send out lights to target & TAG.

My team: No one does anything but play "chase the scout" while they bring the rain...

I inform them I'm going to go do what I do best in this scenario... I flank and annoy so they can crest the ridge unmolested. I pop out of Jenner's run and dive right into the LRM spammers and they all move to engage me...

I tell my team to CHARGE NOW!

I keep the opposing team busy long enough for them to move en mass... but no support fire comes and in short order I get to feel red-hot "prison love" as 3/4th of their team takes turn violating me.

I drop into spectator expecting to see my team engaged in the fits of battle... Nope.

My team is chasing a scout around like a perverse mechanized Conga-Line...

Sigh.. At least I ended the mission with top damage and one kill before watching my team die one by one from LRM enemas.

This happens a lot to me too. Just when I think we have the advantage when I get the entire enemy team to fire on me and I survive for like 2 whole minutes getting all their attention and no one goes to help out. It's a little frustrating, but this is the fault of not having proper communication.

Imagine if there was a button that sent out the audio to everyone - "I'm drawing their fire, take them out!" or something.

[DaZur]

Hawkeye 72, on 22 February 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

Youth, not self-sacrifice, is wasted on MWO

As in I continue to waste my youth hoping my teammates will get smarter

Actually... eventually through ELO they will get smarter... or more correctly, you will end up playing with smarter players.
(Assuming all works as planned)

[Bhan Zor]

DaZur, on 22 February 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

My team is chasing a scout around like a perverse mechanized Conga-Line...

Chasing a single light/scout around for no good reason seems to be a popular activity these days. I often find myself reminding the participants that there are currently 7 other enemies waiting to be shot at - often shortly followed by 7 enemies picking the "conga-line" apart one by one....

As far as taking the bullet for the team (or members of it) goes, sometimes I try to squeeze in a block for a teamie under heavy fire. That too can result in death. Sometimes by said teamie launching his alpha into your back.

Edited by Bhan Zor, 22 February 2013 - 08:36 AM.

[Screech]

When pugging support the moves you see other people make, least that way you know 2 of you are on same page. Random01 yelling "Charge" will often not get the results you were hoping for even if charging is the appropriate action.

Also for the "Squirrel" issue if you are near the front lines and see your team chasing after a light, pull back to the next defensible position. During that time try to point out that you don't need 300+ tons of mechs chasing after 1 light. Usually you can peel 1 or 2 people back to their sense and hopefully that is enough.