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#1 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

What is this usually double digit score saying? Its not how many points my Elo is shifting by. Its not accumulating on stat on my profile page. Is it tied almost purely to damage done? I can see higher is better but outside of that not much more.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:40 AM

"That's right the points are just like tasteful shoes to Ryan Stiles."

Edited by Padic, 22 February 2013 - 09:40 AM.


#3 Greyfyl

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:44 AM

I've asked if match score is tied to ELO at least 3 times now, still have yet to see an answer.

#4 Josef Nader

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:59 AM

Welcome to Mechwarrior Online, where everything's made up and the points don't matter.

#5 Ryvucz

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:01 AM

View PostJosef Nader, on 22 February 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

Welcome to Mechwarrior Online, where everything's made up and the points don't matter.


That explains every game in existence.

#6 Padic

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 22 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

I've asked if match score is tied to ELO at least 3 times now, still have yet to see an answer.


Match score is not associated with Elo at all. The only factors that Elo takes into account are your current Elo, your opponent's Elo and whether or not you won.

Match score is used for sorting names on the victory screen. (And, I suspect, for determining the winners of this weekend's challenge).

#7 Joe Kid

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:07 AM

I think match score is = damage done + GXP earned. Pretty meaningless stat really, IMO

#8 scruffy416

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

View PostPadic, on 22 February 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

Match score is used for sorting names on the victory screen. (And, I suspect, for determining the winners of this weekend's challenge).



Ha! Good point! I wonder if this event would have been held last a few weekends ago if they hadn't had the blunder they had with the Match Score prior to the latest patch (remember? when it looked like your match score was your damage + a few points...)

#9 Greyfyl

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

View PostPadic, on 22 February 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:


Match score is not associated with Elo at all. The only factors that Elo takes into account are your current Elo, your opponent's Elo and whether or not you won.

Match score is used for sorting names on the victory screen. (And, I suspect, for determining the winners of this weekend's challenge).


Can you link to a quote from PGI that confirms this - or are you just going on your own assumptions?

#10 ObsidianSpectre

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostGreyfyl, on 22 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

I've asked if match score is tied to ELO at least 3 times now, still have yet to see an answer.
It's not tied to Elo currently, but they have talked about possibly using it to improve the Elo system in the future.

#11 Padic

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

In their matchmaking mega-info-dump, they go into great detail about how Elo works and is being used:

http://mwomercs.com/...79-matchmaking/

(Posts 3 and 4 are where the meat live)
These equations depend entirely on current Elo of the players/teams involved and the result of the game.

The match score that was introduced with phase 3 matchmaking is still something of a mystery to me - but I believe that it is safe to assume that it is extremely similar to the older versions of match score (some rough combination of the "countable" things you do - damage, kills, assists etc). These are things that almost certainly correlate with wins and losses, but do not plug into the Elo equations that PGI has provided us with.

#12 Golfin Man

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

View PostPadic, on 22 February 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:

"That's right the points are just like tasteful shoes to Ryan Stiles."


You are awesome

#13 Sprouticus

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostGreyfyl, on 22 February 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:


Can you link to a quote from PGI that confirms this - or are you just going on your own assumptions?



I dont have a link, but I DID see a post on that by a PGI person. It might have even been in one of my posts on ELO this week, let me check....


blarrgh, can't find it.

Edited by Sprouticus, 22 February 2013 - 01:17 PM.


#14 Padic

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

View PostThontor, on 22 February 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__1844543

Match score has nothing to do with Elo rating, or matchmaking phase 3 (it was implemented before MM3)
For now its used to rank people on the scoreboard at the end of a match.
In the future it will have something to do with your Combat Score which determines "global ranking"
How its calculated, who knows. I've heard some guesses that it might be damage done divided by 10 plus kills and assists weighted in there somehow.


Thanks Thontor,. I knew there was something like that out there.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostLukoi, on 22 February 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

What is this usually double digit score saying? Its not how many points my Elo is shifting by. Its not accumulating on stat on my profile page. Is it tied almost purely to damage done? I can see higher is better but outside of that not much more.


Triple digit score says that you've just carried a bunch of scrubs, double digit score says that you are at least an average player (possibly better than average, depends on circumstances), single digit score says that you are either very new to the game or are an utterly hopeless window licker.

#16 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:25 PM

LOL thanks for all of the plays folks. Glad to see I'm not the only one in the dark :)





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