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[Roadbuster]

Just curious if someone tried the 7K yet and how it performs.
I'm currently running the 5N and 5J and looking for the 3rd variant for mastering the chasis.

The builds I'd run for the 2 would be:

TBT-7K: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0c0a38b9b12ae39
TBT-7M: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f8df1a2d9bb0b87

Any thoughts?

[Flying Judgement]

not to many ppl like the 7 K
jumpjet are good for sniping and brawling for lrmi never tryed it. But i would like to see, how is it works.
7M i see someone runing it with srms and max jump jet + medL runing 110 + and it was extremely effective in brawling

[Khobai]

This is my amazing 7M poptart build

x2 ER PPC, x2 SRM4, x4 jumpjets, x14 DHS, XL255 engine (90.9 kph with speed tweak)

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...118da4a80f6cb73


This is one of the best 7M builds you can run IMO. You get decent pinpoint damage at all ranges in the form of two ER PPCs. With 14 DHS youre fine on heat. You go 90kph or so with speedtweak and you have jumpjets. And lastly theres the two SRM4s for when you need a little bit of extra punch (but only one ton of ammo so its best to use the SRM4s on heavies and assaults). Unfortunately the one SRM4 fires out of the NARC hole but thats unavoidable. If that bothers you though you can replace the two SRM4s with a single SRM6.

Edited by Khobai, 21 February 2013 - 04:55 AM.

[Roadbuster]

Flying Judgement, on 21 February 2013 - 04:13 AM, said:

not to many ppl like the 7 K
jumpjet are good for sniping and brawling for lrmi never tryed it. But i would like to see, how is it works.
7M i see someone runing it with srms and max jump jet + medL runing 110 + and it was extremely effective in brawling

I like trying unconventional things, but you are right, I've yet to see a 7K on the battlefield.

JJ with a LRM setup work very well too. You can get to more good firing positions and can adapt to changing situations more quickly.

[EyeOne]

I bought a 5N and a 7K. I thought I had a good idea for a 7K build (2) AC2s, (1) ERPPC. I haven't had any luck with it yet however.

The Trebs are the first mechs I've come across where the stock amount of SHS were no where near good enough. Maybe when I get DHS on my 7K it will be better. Or I thought about going with a UAC5 and a SRM6 instead of the two AC2s.

For what it's worth, I was able to recreate the stock Thor config on a 7K. So that's something.

[Cache]

Roadbuster, on 21 February 2013 - 05:23 AM, said:

I've yet to see a 7K on the battlefield.

I saw them regularly yesterday. Most carried a gauss or AC/20.

[Suprentus]

Khobai, on 21 February 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

Unfortunately the one SRM4 fires out of the NARC hole but thats unavoidable. If that bothers you though you can replace the two SRM4s with a single SRM6.

Well...it kind of is completely avoidable. Can't you just move the SRM4 to the left arm?

[3rdworld]

The 7M is a decent chassis. The 1 hole Narc is a huge let down, but I have had good success using 2PPCs & 3 SSRMs with an XL300 and JJs. It is a very very mobile poptart, and decent skirmisher with the SSRMs. The PPC shots at point blank don't really hurt and enemy light but it still knocks out the ECM so you can fire your streaks.

The 7K is just a better HBK-4G. Using a gauss and a ERPPC it is more accurate as the firing locations are closer together than shooting a PPC from the arm of the hunchback. The torso doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. And you only give up a single energy port, but gain 2 good SSRM slots.

[Voidsinger]

I have them all, and seem to have best luck with a 7K. The 7M is nice if you want the extra missile HP, but as stated, it's a 1-tube. If you're not into JJs, or Ballistics, look at the 3C for a fast fire support mech. Feels more responsive.

300XL, max armour, Endosteel
ERPPC
Med Laser
2 MG
2 SSRMs
BAP
AMS
some amount of heat sinks.

Thing with the 7K is that the missile HPs are in the arm, and the rest in the body. Since I'm used to Centurions, no issues.

[General Taskeen]

I just use the 7K in its default format. Ridiculously challenging, but at least it doesn't have MG's or Flamers. I'll post screenshots later, but I painted it Draconis Combine flat-red like the miniature.

http://camospecs.com...ure.asp?ID=6216

I use the Default Loadout, plus a '3050'-ized version of it as well.

(Default)
PPC
AC/5 (1 ton ammo)
SRM2 (1 ton ammo)

(3050-ized)
PPC
Ultra AC/5 (2 tons ammo)
SSRM2 (1 ton ammo)
Endo Steel

Edited by General Taskeen, 21 February 2013 - 08:47 AM.

[Rift Hawk]

Roadbuster, on 21 February 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

Just curious if someone tried the 7K yet and how it performs.
I'm currently running the 5N and 5J and looking for the 3rd variant for mastering the chasis.

The builds I'd run for the 2 would be:

TBT-7K: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0c0a38b9b12ae39
TBT-7M: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f8df1a2d9bb0b87

Any thoughts?

I run the 7M with an XL285, 2 meds, 1 tag, and 2 LRM15s with about 700 ammo.

The 7K I have an AC5, 2 meds, and 2 SRM6. It seems to work alright though the missles come out in 2 packs in a stream because it only have two tubes and the missiles go into the one arm. That can be a problem sometimes buts it seems to be helpful against lights.

Edit: Keep in mind the 7K can run an AC20 or a Gauss and AC5 together if you can get enough weight free. Don't even know if you can get that much weight free but slot wise it works.

Edited by Imperial X, 21 February 2013 - 08:49 AM.

[MourningZero]

7K is pretty versatile. You can make a better HBK-4G/H with it (due to no giant torso hunch), or a fast(er) skirmisher that forfeits big ballistics for speed and plays more like a CN.

[FerretGR]

I think you'll be surprised by the 7K. I bought it figuring, with the ballistics, it'd be my "for lulz" TBT to a certain extent, but I fell in love with it. I stuck a UAC5 on the ballistic torso, 2 MPLs on the energy torso, and the crown jewel, two SRM6s in the arm. Because the 6's are coming out of an SRM 2 slot, when I fire them, they come out in three groups of four, and travel almost perfectly straight! It's gold and it's been a ton of fun to pilot.

[Congzilla]

I've been having fun with the 7k, 2x SSRM2, 2x med lasers, and 2x AC5.

[Orzorn]

7K XL 300, AC/10, ERPPC, medium laser is what I've been using most. Hits like a truck and is very accurate and fast.

[Butane9000]

The 7K isn't bad and I chose it because it plays distinctly different from the other 2 I bought (5J and 7M) as well as the other variants.

It's failing is that it tries to be something that it's not. The stock load out isn't terrible on heat until you start using the PPC. Then it gets silly how fast it heats up. I did manage a kill with it on a Hunchback 4G. I switched the build from the stock SRM2, PPC and AC5 to this:

2x ER Large Laser
2x Machine Guns
2x SRM2

Overall it's not terrible but not amazing. I don't plan on keeping it. If I have to get close the 2xSRM6 5xML 5JJ 7M I have is more then sufficient. And the 5J is a nice LRM boat but I'm unlikely to keep it in favor for the Catapult C4 which I have set up for LRMs. I figured it'd be nice to have a LRM medium but it just seems lacking in comparison. The 5J is slightly better then the Hunchback HBK-4J solely for the jump jets though.

End review of the 7K: it's a fun mech to change up the Treb grind but isn't a "keeper"

[Orzorn]

Butane9000, on 21 February 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

2x ER Large Laser
2x Machine Guns
2x SRM2

There's your problem. That build lacks any sort of hard hitting power. Ditch the machine guns, ditch the ER larges, and get an AC/10 or an AC/5, either with dual mlas and SRM 4s or 6s, or an ERPPC and SRM 4.

XL 300 gives plenty of cooling efficiency for me with my ERPPC, AC/10, mlas build.

Your build simply lacks any sort of punch.

[TungstenWall]

I cant recall off the top of my head my 7K build, but I remember most of it.


XL engine (90<x<100 KPH no tweak), Endo, DHS
2 LL
2 MGs (2 tons ammo)
2 Streaks (2 tons ammo)
AMS (1 ton ammo)
I would say this is the most effective I have tested so far.

I also had a build with a stock engine, DHS
AC-5 (2 tons ammo)
2/1 +DHS Flamer(s)
2 S/SRM (1/2 tons ammo)
Was not horrible, but by no means great.
I changed to a single Flamer so I could blind slower mechs.

[Duncan Longwood]

I initially bought the 7k for the ballistics slot for the hunch-without-a-hunch g/h style builds but found stuffing 2LPL in the torso to be alot of fun. I went 300XL with 2LPL, 2MGs with 1 ton of ammo, and 2 streaks with 1 ton of ammo. Went with FF, Endo and 13 double HS. 97kph before tweek, 34 firepower with a 1.46 HE and 322 armor. It has been alot of fun and very effective for me on conquest.

[Dimento Graven]

Two loadouts:
TBT-7M
ML'sx3
SSRMSx3
AMS
JJx5
DHSx12
XL325 Engine

Speed: 105.3 (non tweaked)
FP: 30
HE: 1.41
Armor: 336 (standard)
Endo Steel
JD: 28

Played a few rounds it, specifically on Alpine and it was great. It was speedy enough to scout, and since it was bigger than most enemy scouts, I was able to chase them away with litte to no issue.

TBT-7K
ER LLx2
SSRMx2
AMS
JJ - NA
DHAx13
BAP
XL Engine 250

Speed: 81kph (non-tweaked)
FP: 28
HE: 1.31
Armor: 320 (standard)
Endo Steel
JD: 0

I played a few rounds with this, one in River City (conquest), one in Forest Colony (assault) and was satisfied with performance. I scored a kill each match, and with the long distance punch of the dual pinpoint ER LL I was able to harrass much larger 'mechs from a relatively safe distance while keeping on the move being as difficult a target as possible.

Heat is a slight issue, which is why I didn't go with ER PPCs, I can get of 4 or 5 shots with the ER LL before having to worry about heat, as opposed to two rounds with ER PPCs, and I sacrifice only 4 points of fire power.

These are great 'mechs and have a durability factor as good as, if not better, than the hunchie (god explative damn hunchies are hard to kill some times, running around at 15%, jerks), and with JJ option on the various models they can make great heavy scouts.