55 replies to this topic

[Sephlock]

That is, are they good, or are they full of fail and only good for making Shadow Warrior jokes?

[F lan Ker]

S!

Every Mech is as good as it's pilot. No cheese build will save a pilot who has no grasp of what he/she is doing while a sesoned player would cram ammo up the pooper on this cheese build in a "lesser" Mech.

[Sephlock]

Thank you with that vague statement about the nature of the universe. How about answering my question ?

Are they worth buying (although maybe not at the current insanely high prices), like Ilya, or are they pay-to-lose, like YLW?

[F lan Ker]

S!

I like the Fang, not tried the Flame though. Sure they share the same weakness of all Dragons (the weak CT), but playability overall is the same. IMHO no advantage over original Dragons, just a bit of difference which I like. Been running my Fang much more than the DRG-5N lately...

[Remarius]

Flame I enjoy. Fang not that convinced by. I do have all 4 sadly.

F lan Ker, on 28 December 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

S!

I like the Fang, not tried the Flame though. Sure they share the same weakness of all Dragons (the weak CT), but playability overall is the same. IMHO no advantage over original Dragons, just a bit of difference which I like. Been running my Fang much more than the DRG-5N lately...

Yes, the Flame was an upgrade over the 1C for me.

[Mycrus]

YLW - pay to lose?! please...
try this build xl280 (comes stock with ILYA btw) / 2uac5 / 2 med pulse

FLAME is better than FANG, hardpoint wise... FLAME is also the only DRGN that has a ballistic slot in its torso... (i got both..)

ILYA - 3uac5, enough said

Is it worth MC wise? only you can answer that... you can make coffee for yourself or go buy starbucks... is starbucks worth it?

[F lan Ker]

S!

Looks like I have to get some more MC to get the Flame then Gotta test it out and see. I like the Fang as I am used to shoot with arm mounted ballistics now more or less. But Flame would offer world of hurt in from of lasers to the pesky lights because of arm mounted. But in the end I guess the play style and preference dictates which one you like most.

[Sephlock]

Mycrus, on 28 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

YLW - pay to lose?! please...
try this build xl280 (comes stock with ILYA btw) / 2uac5 / 2 med pulse

FLAME is better than FANG, hardpoint wise... FLAME is also the only DRGN that has a ballistic slot in its torso... (i got both..)

ILYA - 3uac5, enough said

Is it worth MC wise? only you can answer that... you can make coffee for yourself or go buy starbucks... is starbucks worth it?

If starbucks charged $29.99 per cup, no .

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So Fang and Flame are good, but not OMGWTFBETTER like Ilya?

Or is Flame like Ilya, whereas Fang is more of a Shadow Warrior type of mech?

Edited by Sephlock, 28 December 2012 - 03:11 AM.

[KinLuu]

Because the ballistic slot is on the left torso? Maybe...

[Budor]

Flame is the most balanced (best?) of the hero mechs imho. Its fast and has diverse hardpoints. Good thing is you can test it with a Dragon - 1C. The Flame is just better at it due to 4x arm mounted lasers. Its like the 4SP and the 1C had a baby

Endo
DHS
300xl
4x MLas
Srm6 with 1t of ammo
Gauss with 3t of ammo

Strip legs to 39 each to fit. Its fast and can engage from all ranges. Gauss on a 1C with XL is a risk since the last patch though.

P.S. 3x uac Ilya is the most straight forward (easiest) you will have to play different in a Flame i guess.

Edited by Budor, 28 December 2012 - 03:09 AM.

[Pr8Dator]

Hero mechs are not "GOOD" but that they are "UNIQUE". They give you unique hardpoints that allow you to do unique weapons combinations not possible on other mechs but are not necessarily OP.

Between Fang and Flame, Flame is the unique one as you can pretty much do everything Fang can with other dragons or Cataphracts. Flame is the only mech that allows you to carry 4 heavy laser weapons moving at over 100kph and that the 4 lasers comes out in just 2 beams making convergence much less of a concern than 4 seperate beams. It is also the fastest mech to mount an AC20 if you want other than a YLW.

Edited by Pr8Dator, 28 December 2012 - 03:12 AM.

[F lan Ker]

S!

And the lasers are the only way to counter those pesky lights. 4 of them ripping thru makes them run I guess. Sure I can hit them with my ballistics too, but too much wonkiness at the moment in that due no registered damage, lag shield and whatever. I hope the newer netcode in january will cure the bane of lights a bit.

[Sephlock]

S!

Or you could just use your poor dumb teammates as bait. gauss or autocannon the lights when they are moving straight towards or away from you during their loop of death around one of your teammates .

[F lan Ker]

S!

Happened last night, got a Commando circling me. Got hits on him, but slower than I wanted. A team mate was a bit further away and saw the Commando doing same loop all the time, timed his shot and BLAMMO! There goes one Commando flying thru the air So hilarious to watch.

[LordDante]

Sephlock, on 28 December 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Thank you with that vague statement about the nature of the universe. How about answering my question ?

Are they worth buying (although maybe not at the current insanely high prices), like Ilya, or are they pay-to-lose, like YLW?

is everybody in rasehague so stupid as the OP ?

one Wang to rule them all !

Edited by LordDante, 28 December 2012 - 03:55 AM.

[Leetskeet]

Fang sucks, Yen Lo Wang sucks.

Flame's good, Muromets is pay2win

[PiemasterXL]

Sephlock, on 28 December 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

That is, are they good, or are they full of fail and only good for making Shadow Warrior jokes?

Who wanta some wang!?!?

[Mycrus]

Sephlock, on 28 December 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

If starbucks charged $29.99 per cup, no . --- So Fang and Flame are good, but not OMGWTFBETTER like Ilya? Or is Flame like Ilya, whereas Fang is more of a Shadow Warrior type of mech?

i have 2 bad habits when building mechs...

1.) must mount the biggest XL engine possible
2.) must fill all the weapon hardpoints

ILYA is hands down fun.. but i feel that FLAME is more survivable and versatile

FLAME build
XL360
4 Med Laser
1 UAC5
1 SRM4 + Artemis
FF, ENDO, & DHS

FANG build -- still work in progress, it doesn't feel right yet...
XL360
2 x AC2
3 x Med Laser
1 x SRM4 + Artemis
FF, ENDO, & DHS

[LordDante]

Leetskeet, on 28 December 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

Fang sucks, Yen Lo Wang sucks.

Flame's good, Muromets is pay2win

ok EVERYBODY in raselhague is stupid ... thx for making it official

[Pr8Dator]

Leetskeet, on 28 December 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

Fang sucks, Yen Lo Wang sucks. Flame's good, Muromets is pay2win

HITS THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD!!!! 100% AGREED!