16 replies to this topic

[SubRyan]

I would like to see the option to purchase a mech chassis that does not come with upgrades / weapons / equipment / engines so I could acquire mechs faster. I already own 25 mechs but I would also like to add mechs to my other 17 empty mech bays

Edited by SubRyan, 24 February 2013 - 01:34 AM.

[Beeman]

I can see this being valuable to some people. More options are always better, I think.

[DeadlyNerd]

been suggested and rejected. allowing this will cause buying default loadouts to become pointless.

[Sable Dove]

DeadlyNerd, on 24 February 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:

been suggested and rejected. allowing this will cause buying default loadouts to become pointless.

And they aren't pointless now?

[Beeman]

I run a couple stock mechs but I can see the reasoning behind forcing the stock configurations upon people...I guess.

Still think more options are always better, though.

[DeadlyNerd]

Sable Dove, on 24 February 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

And they aren't pointless now?

Tell me, oh so smart one, what's the main reason we have to buy default loadouts, with the engine and equipment we don't want?
It shouldn't be hard, you're smart after all.

[Sable Dove]

DeadlyNerd, on 24 February 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

Tell me, oh so smart one, what's the main reason we have to buy default loadouts, with the engine and equipment we don't want?
It shouldn't be hard, you're smart after all.

So that the game is less fun because you have to grind in order to put together a remotely competitive mech?

Honestly, I don't know. So that they can charge more MC for mechs and say it's because you get all this crappy equipment with them?

[BirdToes]

I think of it as a form of http://en.wikipedia....ing#Super_Stock racing. You go to your local Chevy dealer and buy a stock Impala with its crappy engine, tires, and aerodynamics. Then you rework it for competition to the point where it is a "stock car" only in name.

But seriously, it's just a money sink.

[blah40000]

BirdToes, on 24 February 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

I think of it as a form of http://en.wikipedia....ing#Super_Stock racing. You go to your local Chevy dealer and buy a stock Impala with its crappy engine, tires, and aerodynamics. Then you rework it for competition to the point where it is a "stock car" only in name.

But seriously, it's just a money sink.

or you can go to a junkyard and get a stripped chassis for ~10% of the price tops.

[Army000]

BirdToes, on 24 February 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

I think of it as a form of http://en.wikipedia....ing#Super_Stock racing. You go to your local Chevy dealer and buy a stock Impala with its crappy engine, tires, and aerodynamics. Then you rework it for competition to the point where it is a "stock car" only in name.

But seriously, it's just a money sink.

Or... you just buy the frame and start from there. Like all the modifieds do....(And even then I know alot of guys who build the frame from scratch.....there are few rules other than the role cage and support.)
I would hope in the future of death dealing machines you would be able to buy the frame only, and not all the crappy components.

This would be analagous to buying a desktop from dell, only to remove all the crappy components and the put in your own.

If I'm trusting my life to a giant hunk of metal, I want the best money can buy, and won't pay for cut rate crap from a 'dealer' who sells me the stock 'Atlas'.

Edited by Army000, 24 February 2013 - 01:14 PM.

[RLBell]

Sable Dove, on 24 February 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

And they aren't pointless now?

I have three Stalkers and an Atlas. However, I am having a lot of fun in the trial Catapult K2 (to the point that I could start unlocking the basic enhancements). I am now saving up to buy one and I will probably keep it stock (eventually, I will figure out what the MG's are for).

[Stringburka]

Disagree. Much rather see that they made stock loadouts relevant.

[Dueliest]

But if are honest with the mech you would hurt its feelings... "I bought you for your body"

[Deathlike]

At best, the "stripped mech" evaluation might be OK, if the cost to obtain them is at least double their stripped worth, or something along those lines.

[PhoenixFire55]

Yes please, what OP said.

[BirdToes]

How about:

Price of stripped 'mech = price of stock variant - half the value of all stock variant equipment

So, the end price is equal to purchasing the regular stock variant, then stripping it of engine, weapons, armor, etc. and selling all that equipment (at half price). That's about what I do now anyway. It would save time and lower the initial cost, so instead of saving over 8 million c-bills for a TBT-3C, you only need to save up about 5 million c-bills.

[Spirit of the Wolf]

BirdToes, on 25 February 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

How about:

Price of stripped 'mech = price of stock variant - half the value of all stock variant equipment

So, the end price is equal to purchasing the regular stock variant, then stripping it of engine, weapons, armor, etc. and selling all that equipment (at half price). That's about what I do now anyway. It would save time and lower the initial cost, so instead of saving over 8 million c-bills for a TBT-3C, you only need to save up about 5 million c-bills.

Actually, this suggestion I find to be valid.
I usually, (despite hating the grind to get a mech with an XL engine), would have rejected a suggestion about buying a stripped-down chassis, but this idea does make sense. That way, if you know you don't want any of the stock parts, you can save yourself a bit of time and just buy the chassis. I think it would be rare for players not to want an XL engine though (but it could happen), and the LBX isn't cheap either. Other than those two parts, which are rare on most 'mechs, this idea would work perfectly.

As to whether PGI would buy into this...
I dunno, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.