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[GrimlockONE]

Just dropped, solo, into a match after they have restored ELO Matchmaking.

Still took forever to find the match, but most of the time I am not lone wolfing. Figured I would throw that out there anyways.

Dropped on Alpine and the following is the End of Match screen.

Edited by GrimlockONE, 20 February 2013 - 04:28 PM.

[Team Leader]

On the one hand, woah, that sucks, on the other hand looks like the Elo system is working... That seems like an awfully close match for such a weight imbalance, and look at the damage done. Your team had better players.
Ok, we'll maybe not that much better, but still.

Edited by Team Leader, 20 February 2013 - 04:31 PM.

[Merky Merc]

That sums up my experiences yesterday. Fortunately many Atlas pilots are awful.

[w0rm]

Lol yip. Funtimes when you drop with a boomcat lance and end up with 6 lights on the hostile team.

[Khobai]

Yeah it seems like good players in light mechs really throws off the game balance though.

[GrimlockONE]

I was quite shocked to discover two atlai approaching me, but I chopped it up to me not paying attention before launch. Needless to say the Summary screen was quite the shock. I sat around base expecting a quick base rush given the amount of lights on my team....when that didnt happen I was a bit perplexed. I figured out why only through death and EoR.

Edited by GrimlockONE, 20 February 2013 - 04:35 PM.

[Gammanoob]

Team Leader, on 20 February 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

On the one hand, woah, that sucks, on the other hand looks like the Elo system is working... That seems like an awfully close match for such a weight imbalance, and look at the damage done. Your team had better players.
Ok, we'll maybe not that much better, but still.

Best troll post in the thread, 2 out of 5 Atlai.

Would read again.

[Warrax the Chaos Warrior]

A slight weight imbalance would be okay, one or even two more or less for each class on each team is perfectly fine. FFA is not so great, especially when it stacks all or most of the ECM on one team. Which happens given that the most common ECM mechs are assaults and lights, the two classes you most don't want out-of-balance.

Edited by Warrax the Chaos Warrior, 20 February 2013 - 04:37 PM.

[Flapdrol]

holy crap that's 400 vs 700 ton

[Skaroth]

On that map you guys had a SEVERE advantage. Some patience when you saw the make up, run away, move them far away from base and roll in and cap, nothing they could do...

Meh, I guess playing to strengths is dumb... BRAWL FO'EVA'!

[Davers]

Hold it. Are you saying not having weight balance in pugs is just as bad as in 8 man drops?

[Arcadian Xero]

GrimlockONE, on 20 February 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

Just dropped, solo, into a match after they have restored ELO Matchmaking.

Still took forever to find the match, but most of the time I am not lone wolfing. Figured I would throw that out there anyways.

Dropped on Alpine and the following is the End of Match screen.

Bad match making is bad... the mismatched weights should be within a certain tolerance.

[Budor]

I dont get the screenshot. Were your teammates really that bad or htf did you not outcap em with this many lights on alpine oO

[Warrax the Chaos Warrior]

Davers, on 20 February 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Hold it. Are you saying not having weight balance in pugs is just as bad as in 8 man drops?

Well, it would be impossible to weight balance 8's without restrictions on what people could take. I'm not entirely sure why they don't do that unless it's just to keep people from crying about not being able to make a group because they can't find enough medium pilots or whatever.

[GrimlockONE]

Skaroth, on 20 February 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

On that map you guys had a SEVERE advantage. Some patience when you saw the make up, run away, move them far away from base and roll in and cap, nothing they could do...

Meh, I guess playing to strengths is dumb... BRAWL FO'EVA'!

If I had been with three others instead of lone wolfing then yes, victory would have been assured. That was not the case and information was not shared about enemy make up from our lights. It was a straight up FFA on the biggest map with the tonnage advantage deciding victor.

I feel this change will simply cause more problems then they hope to resolve with it.

Arcadian Xero, on 20 February 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Bad match making is bad... the mismatched weights should be within a certain tolerance.

Come on Arcad where is the Zoidberg meme when you need it!! =P

[Caviel]

You guys got base capped by a Steiner Scout Lance on the new huge map? Sorry, props to the Atlas pilots for that one, they had way more team coordination going on apparently.

Edited by Caviel, 20 February 2013 - 04:43 PM.

[Davers]

Warrax the Chaos Warrior, on 20 February 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Well, it would be impossible to weight balance 8's without restrictions on what people could take. I'm not entirely sure why they don't do that unless it's just to keep people from crying about not being able to make a group because they can't find enough medium pilots or whatever.

I know why they did it. I was kinda hoping that with Elo the group restrictions would be lifted. After all, you would most likely be matched against another 8 man anyway, or the greatest Pugs to ever drop in a match.

[GrimlockONE]

Budor, on 20 February 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

I dont get the screenshot. Were your teammates really that bad or htf did you not outcap em with this many lights on alpine oO

Caviel, on 20 February 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

You guys got base capped by a Steiner Scout Lance on the new huge map? Sorry, props to the Atlas pilots for that one, they had way more team coordination going on apparently.

Dear lord, the purpose of the topic is not who won or lost in the match. It was simply illustrating the point that there is currently no weight balancing in 4s anymore.

Yes we should have won, why the light pilots on my team went rambo and not go to cap, I have no clue. Be aware that we did not know we were facing a team of Atlai at the on start of match.

Edited by GrimlockONE, 20 February 2013 - 04:47 PM.

[Davers]

GrimlockONE, on 20 February 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Dear lord, the purpose of the topic is not who won or lost in the match. It was simply illustrating the point that there is currently no weight balancing in 4s anymore.

Yes we should have won, why the light pilots on my team went rambo and not go to cap, I have no clue. Be aware that we did not know we were facing a team of Atlai at the on start of match.

Because slow mech pilots have done a great job demonizing winning by cap.

[Warrax the Chaos Warrior]

GrimlockONE, on 20 February 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

Come on Arcad where is the Zoidberg meme when you need it!! =P

You weren't talking to me, but...

My meme is bad, and I should feel bad.