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A Simple Idea To Remove The Ecm Hunters


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#1 Redwo1f

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:17 AM

The way I see it, ECM mechs SHOULD be scouts or used to provide protection to the group (which I think many agree).

Right now we see the rise of these super ECM hunters that appear out of nowhere and wreck havoc (which I believe is completely against the original intiention of the MW world). Here is perhaps a simple solution (though it will be met with great malice by some) -

Keep the ECM mechanics the way they are (I think they are fine).
Remove the ECM from the Atlas (sorry) and force ECM mechs to play their proper role by increasing the tonnage of the ECM and/or perhaps even better - reducing the number of weapon hardpoints on an ECM mech down to 2 (allow it to be able to defend itself, but not be a mini-ninja assault mech). Also have some extra bonus points in the scoring for the scouting role.

Just my thoughts.
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Edited by Redwo1f, 01 March 2013 - 07:18 AM.


#2 Slash

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:19 AM

View PostRedwo1f, on 01 March 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

The way I see it, ECM mechs SHOULD be scouts or used to provide protection to the group (which I think many agree).

Right now we see the rise of these super ECM hunters that appear out of nowhere and wreck havoc (which I believe is completely against the original intiention of the MW world). Here is perhaps a simple solution (though it will be met with great malice by some) -

Keep the ECM mechanics the way they are (I think they are fine).
Remove the ECM from the Atlas (sorry) and force ECM mechs to play their proper role by increasing the tonnage of the ECM and/or perhaps even better - reducing the number of weapon hardpoints on an ECM mech down to 2 (allow it to be able to defend itself, but not be a mini-ninja assault mech). Also have some extra bonus points in the scoring for the scouting role.

Just my thoughts.
:)


Sorry bro, but ECM isnt so prohibitive in the BT universe. Even Angel ECM is equipped to all sorts of offensive front line machines....

#3 jay35

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:21 AM

View PostRedwo1f, on 01 March 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

The way I see it, ...
(which I believe is completely against the original intiention of the MW world).

Sorry, but you're wrong. ECM is fine in every manner in its current implementation. Learn to counter it effectively. Try teamwork.

#4 Syllogy

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:22 AM

And Direct Fire, and PPC's, and TAG, and....

#5 Hawks

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:24 AM

ITT: mainly people who can't pilot anything but a Raven 3L without dying in about three seconds.

#6 3rdworld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:35 AM

What?

Hitting that raven with a AC/20 cat is the only joy this game brings to me anymore.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:58 AM

You can't change the wight of the item or change the hardpoints of the mechs that carry it- that goes against the maxim of adhering to the stock variants. If you made CM weight 5 ton, then the STOCK RVN-3L would become an impossible construction.

#8 Penance

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:08 AM

View Post3rdworld, on 01 March 2013 - 07:35 AM, said:

What?

Hitting that raven with a AC/20 cat is the only joy this game brings to me anymore.



killed an ECM raven last night in my Ilya with an AC10....i ate that cheese.

#9 keith

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:10 AM

balancing MW games 101, u can't not change the wep/ system tonage or if it crit system like this, the crit valves from CBT. it amkes it so u can not make stock mechs, makes CBT fan boys very angery. almost any other stat can be changed. dam, heat, how it functions.

Edited by keith, 01 March 2013 - 08:10 AM.


#10 Spheroid

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:15 AM

I think AMS should be buffed to shootdown 1-2 SSRM2 per volley. That would solve many, many problems with the Craven.

#11 Lorcan Lladd

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:17 AM

In my opinion the problem with ECM in MWO is that it combines the effects of Guardian, Angel and Null-Signature; it would be fine if it didn't offer so much benefit for absolutely no sacrifice of pure combat performance.
All 'Mechs should be able to use these components... At the appropriate tonnage and critical space cost.

As it is, it just makes any ECM 'Mech miles better than their counterparts.

View PostPenance, on 01 March 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:



killed an ECM raven last night in my Ilya with an AC10....i ate that cheese.


You haven't known true pleasure until you've splattered some 3Ls with... Well... A Splattapult.
Cheese goes well with wine... And more cheese.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 01 March 2013 - 09:48 AM.


#12 3rdworld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:19 AM

View Postkeith, on 01 March 2013 - 08:10 AM, said:

balancing MW games 101, u can't not change the wep/ system tonage or if it crit system like this, the crit valves from CBT. it amkes it so u can not make stock mechs, makes CBT fan boys very angery. almost any other stat can be changed. dam, heat, how it functions.


How i wish that we could alter the weights.

That IMO is why most of the weapons are crap.





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