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[JadePanther]

You know i seem to get warning targeted messages when running ECM but no enemy is even near target range and not using tag (thus you are unacquireable)..

Most notably if having been a previous target of the enemy but they are outside acquisition range.

But i happend to have a thought on it... try this lil take on it for internal review testing.

using ecm..
1.. u get close enough to allow an enemy to target you
2.. they manage to target you..
3.. You break LOS and target loses his target info box
4.. regain visible LOS to previous mech but out side targetable ECM range..
5.. Recieve a warning targeted respose, tho u are not possibly targeted.. thus a false positive.


My thought is that the Audio warning is getting cued up as soon as visible LOS is regained but before acquisition is complete... Are we getting caught assuming LOS will yeild target re-acquisition?

Is it possible that audio cues are being issued merely on visible LOS.. but before the other mech has to pass / fail it's target acquisition checks?

Or is it that it passes initial acquisition but then something in the ECM routines suppresses targeting info... IE target has been reacquired in the back end but ECM suppresses it from the front end display on the hud.

[HarmAssassin]

I've received targeting audio warnings, while behind mountains, surrounded by teammates, with no enemy having any LOS to me. I've even received the warnings while in a tunnel, with no enemies within. I have noticed that sometimes if I am alone, and a friendly mech approaches, as soon as the friendly mech sees me, I get the warning... from a friendly mech.

[Cpt Jason McCarthy]

HarmAssassin, on 24 February 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

I've received targeting audio warnings, while behind mountains, surrounded by teammates, with no enemy having any LOS to me. I've even received the warnings while in a tunnel, with no enemies within. I have noticed that sometimes if I am alone, and a friendly mech approaches, as soon as the friendly mech sees me, I get the warning... from a friendly mech.

Same here.

[Konner Duko]

you are forgetting that you are able to r-target a ecm mech after a few seconds. unless they go to disrupt mode, get hit by a ppc or the ecm is destroyed you just cannot get locks on them for missles. i am still able to r-target at close ranges for armor info. this is what you are probably getting and thing you are imune to targeting and that is false. you are immune with ecm up to missle lock

[Das Wudone]

Konner Duko, on 24 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

you are forgetting that you are able to r-target a ecm mech after a few seconds. unless they go to disrupt mode, get hit by a ppc or the ecm is destroyed you just cannot get locks on them for missles. i am still able to r-target at close ranges for armor info. this is what you are probably getting and thing you are imune to targeting and that is false. you are immune with ecm up to missle lock

even if i am not under the ecm umbrella i get locked on as if i was being spotted when clearly i dont see any enemy in sight at all, am surrounded by a lot of cover and friendlies. when i know ive been spotted by the enemy i get myself into cover properly that no enemy can see me for at least 10 sec... only to be locked on again by some ghost that isnt even there. remember that target decay only lasts 3.5 sec.

[The Cheese]

I've noticed this too. I'll be way behind cover in a place where no hostiles can possibly see me, and "warning: targeted" goes off.

[JadePanther]

Konner Duko, on 24 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

you are forgetting that you are able to r-target a ecm mech after a few seconds. unless they go to disrupt mode, get hit by a ppc or the ecm is destroyed you just cannot get locks on them for missles. i am still able to r-target at close ranges for armor info. this is what you are probably getting and thing you are imune to targeting and that is false. you are immune with ecm up to missle lock

no i'm talking clear of the bubble... say 500m or so... where they should not be able to gain a target.. but u still get an audio warning...

I've gotten them when an enemy mech isnt even close to LOS..

I know about when i'm close they can get a target but no lock... and this is when in pure disrupt mode....

[Heketon]

HarmAssassin, on 24 February 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

I've received targeting audio warnings, while behind mountains, surrounded by teammates, with no enemy having any LOS to me. I've even received the warnings while in a tunnel, with no enemies within. I have noticed that sometimes if I am alone, and a friendly mech approaches, as soon as the friendly mech sees me, I get the warning... from a friendly mech.

The new patch has made Betty paranoid.

[Cache]

I have noticed that I get the warning on an enemy Mech I have targeted, then lost lock, then regained lock (through another teammates LOS and not my own).

or, to be more clear:
1) Alpha is the last remaining enemy.
2) Hit "R" to target Alpha
3) Lose LOS and lock on Alpha
4) Teammate gains LOS on Alpha, regaining my lock on Alpha
5) "Warning: Targeted" sounds

This happens and there is no way possible that Alpha has LOS to me.

[Darkblood]

Cache, on 25 February 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

I have noticed that I get the warning on an enemy Mech I have targeted, then lost lock, then regained lock (through another teammates LOS and not my own).

or, to be more clear:
1) Alpha is the last remaining enemy.
2) Hit "R" to target Alpha
3) Lose LOS and lock on Alpha
4) Teammate gains LOS on Alpha, regaining my lock on Alpha
5) "Warning: Targeted" sounds

This happens and there is no way possible that Alpha has LOS to me.

Had something similar:
* there was only one surviving Mech on the enemy team (a Jenner)
* we were busy getting all those conquer caps because he was avoiding a fight.
* I was piloting a CAT (so no ECM involved) and said Jenner had some scrapes with me before deciding to run
* Every time one of my teammates would target this guy I would get a "Warning: Targeted" - even when he was 1500 m from me on the other side of the mountain in frozen city (beyond the tunnel)

This was a clear case of a bug, but in many matches I have gotten very strange warnings of this kind, which made me suspicious (no enemy found for a while, no shots fired, nothing...). Ghost mechs!?

Edited by Darkblood, 27 February 2013 - 08:38 AM.

[Jman5]

I have noticed what appears to be two bugs with the warning system.

1. When your mech auto-targets an enemy it falsely tells you that you're targeted.

2. I believe it builds up and announces every single targeted warnings even if they no longer apply. So say 5 people target you over the course of 10 seconds and then you run behind cover to lose lock. It will still announce them after the fact until all 5 warnings have been spoken.

Edited by Jman5, 27 February 2013 - 09:53 AM.

[Elizander]

From locked thread:

KitK, on 27 February 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

I occationally get a bug on Frozen and River cities where I hit R and it pops up a target box but no target exists. I doesn't seem to be relative to the place an enemy mech was (that I know of). I can get the phantom box to switch locations by hitting R again. It goes away once I am facing a real target and hit R.

Maybe this sort of bug is sending a false warning to someone on the other team to match my false target?

There are times when I target a mech that I am not even facing and the target box hangs static in my screen as if it were plastered to my windshield instead of tracking an actual target.

[KitK]

Elizander, on 27 February 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

From locked thread:




There are times when I target a mech that I am not even facing and the target box hangs static in my screen as if it were plastered to my windshield instead of tracking an actual target.

Yeah, that's a good way to describe it.