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#21 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

Well maybe they aren't releasing any more concept art because the next new mech announcement is going to be a "big surprise".

#22 Ghogiel

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

I do actually get more hyped about the concept art release, than a mechs release in the game.

I am looking for the highlanders appearance in game though.

#23 Norris J Packard

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

View PostTickdoff Tank, on 27 February 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

I see that you are pretty upset. I do hope this means you will be leaving the game for a "break".


Actually no, seeing as how PGI is so concerned about bandwidth and the cost of hosting MWO I think I will play even more frequently now.

What with me no longer offsetting the cost of myself and many others.


View PostShazarad, on 27 February 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:


No not really. I don't think many people would really care if it was released two months later. It's done very little to change the metagame, just like the Spider. It's nice its in the game, but I doubt the sky would fall if they delayed it.

Also, you're burnt out. How on earth you have 500million C-bills is insane. Like, do you not do anything else with your time? Give the developers some space man. Don't be THAT guy.


You've completely misread my post.

If PGI delayed the Trebuchet by two months, this would mean that they'd also have to delay all of the other Mechs by two months.

Which would mean (in this hypothetical) that the JaegerMech wouldn't come out until May, and the Highlander wouldn't come out until June. And of course the Trebuchet wouldn't come out until April. Do you know what happened the last time PGI delayed a Mech that long? It happened back in Closed Beta and player count hit an all time low.

#24 DegeneratePervert

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

You really care that much about concept art? I didn't think anyone actually gave a crap about that stuff... I mean, it's nice to look at, but... seriously...

#25 Norris J Packard

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

View PostRedshift2k5, on 27 February 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

how do you KNOW they are done?

I mean yes, they have broken the earlier release pattern, but if an artist was moved to a new job, task, department, etc, then they may have had to move concept art to the back burner. Lots of maybes here.

Personally I hope they are sitting on several juicy concept art and will release several at once (hint: Clans will have to appear eventually) but i'm not going to get mad at them for changing the release pattern.


Because I've talked to several PGI and IGP employees.

The art is done.

#26 Tarman

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 27 February 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:


It's cute that you guys think that me exercising my ability to withhold what PGI uses to continue running MWO is just the act of a child.

No money, no MWO.

It doesn't matter what my personal reason is for it, if more people either stop giving PGI money (either due to a lack of interest or personal dissatisfaction) then it hurts them considerably.

PGI can't even get IGP to spring for more employees. What world do you think live in that leads you to believe that MWO isn't cash poor?



So your plan to get trivial pieces of art that are related to the game, is to stop supporting the actual game. This sounds like an less-than-useful approach.

#27 Norris J Packard

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostTarman, on 27 February 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:



So your plan to get trivial pieces of art that are related to the game, is to stop supporting the actual game. This sounds like an less-than-useful approach.


Not really, if the demand is simple to meet (seeing as how it is non-trivial) it should be relatively easy to get me to continue to support the game.

#28 PropagandaWar

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

You can do what I do when I'm bored. Draw my own pictures.

#29 Iron Hyena

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

Whine whine ***** *****, im a little self-entitled snot.

Yep, tired of people like OP.

Edited by Dornhal, 27 February 2013 - 02:45 PM.


#30 Tarman

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 27 February 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:


Not really, if the demand is simple to meet (seeing as how it is non-trivial) it should be relatively easy to get me to continue to support the game.


Then if the demand is not being currently met, then perhaps your appraisal of its ease is in error.

#31 RG Notch

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 27 February 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:


It's cute that you guys think that me exercising my ability to withhold what PGI uses to continue running MWO is just the act of a child.

No money, no MWO.

It doesn't matter what my personal reason is for it, if more people either stop giving PGI money (either due to a lack of interest or personal dissatisfaction) then it hurts them considerably.

PGI can't even get IGP to spring for more employees. What world do you think live in that leads you to believe that MWO isn't cash poor?

It's not the act of with holding cash that is childish, it's posting about it and expecting other folks to line up to do the same that is childish. :)

#32 Norris J Packard

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

View PostRG Notch, on 27 February 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

It's not the act of with holding cash that is childish, it's posting about it and expecting other folks to line up to do the same that is childish. ;)


Actually it isn't.

The Next Mech Announcement thread (one of the oldest and longest running threads on the forums) is filled with players absolutely done PGI's continued ambivalence towards releasing the concept art.

#33 Shazarad

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:48 PM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 27 February 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:


Actually no, seeing as how PGI is so concerned about bandwidth and the cost of hosting MWO I think I will play even more frequently now.

What with me no longer offsetting the cost of myself and many others.




You've completely misread my post.

If PGI delayed the Trebuchet by two months, this would mean that they'd also have to delay all of the other Mechs by two months.

Which would mean (in this hypothetical) that the JaegerMech wouldn't come out until May, and the Highlander wouldn't come out until June. And of course the Trebuchet wouldn't come out until April. Do you know what happened the last time PGI delayed a Mech that long? It happened back in Closed Beta and player count hit an all time low.


Closed Beta was also a different player group than what we have now. I honestly don't think people would really think the sky would fall if mechs were delayed two months like you think they would be.

And no I didn't misread your post. Do you know how many other games people have put their foot down saying if people suddenly stop paying for the game that it hurts the company? How about, every single online game ever? And what happened to most of them? They still keep going despite those few who demand a boycott.

You can stand on your soapbox and scream bloody murder all you want. I'll just keep moving with the reasonable people who will continue to support a great product, with or without your blessing.

#34 Congzilla

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:50 PM

Finally an entitled b*tch and moan thread I can get behind.

View PostNorris J Packard, on 27 February 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:


Actually it isn't.

The Next Mech Announcement thread (one of the oldest and longest running threads on the forums) is filled with players absolutely done PGI's continued ambivalence towards releasing the concept art.

Unpinning that thread was kind of a kick in the face after no new art for two months.

Edited by Congzilla, 27 February 2013 - 02:51 PM.


#35 Norris J Packard

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:50 PM

View PostShazarad, on 27 February 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:


Closed Beta was also a different player group than what we have now. I honestly don't think people would really think the sky would fall if mechs were delayed two months like you think they would be.

And no I didn't misread your post. Do you know how many other games people have put their foot down saying if people suddenly stop paying for the game that it hurts the company? How about, every single online game ever? And what happened to most of them? They still keep going despite those few who demand a boycott.

You can stand on your soapbox and scream bloody murder all you want. I'll just keep moving with the reasonable people who will continue to support a great product, with or without your blessing.


PGI's audience is significantly smaller than you believe it is.

This isn't WoW, PGI isn't even pulling Asheron's Call levels of concurrent users and that's a subscription based MMO that's more than a decade old.

If I can get even a few dozen people to agree not to spend another dime on MWO, that won't go unnoticed.

#36 Kraven Kor

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

Internet Robots are Serious Business.

I intend to try and sue PGI to pay for the psychological counseling I required to deal with the stress of them not releasing content fast enough.

;)

#37 Norris J Packard

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostCongzilla, on 27 February 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

Finally an entitled b*tch and moan thread I can get behind.


So Congzilla, can I add your name to the list?

#38 Shazarad

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 27 February 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:


PGI's audience is significantly smaller than you believe it is.

This isn't WoW, PGI isn't even pulling Asheron's Call levels of concurrent users and that's a subscription based MMO that's more than a decade old.

If I can get even a few dozen people to agree not to spend another dime on MWO, that won't go unnoticed.


Heh, alright man you keep on thinking that. If you really want to intentionally not support this great game you supposedly love that's your beef. You couldn't just be a reasonable understanding fellow and wait patiently for more concept art, thinking that perhaps there's a reason why they aren't releasing new art and instead demanding that a good bunch of fellows like the developers hand over forcefully the concept art.

You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar last I remember.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

View PostDegeneratePervert, on 27 February 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

You really care that much about concept art? I didn't think anyone actually gave a crap about that stuff... I mean, it's nice to look at, but... seriously...


Well, people are different. I can't get enough of concept art. The more, the better. ;)

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:58 PM

You are moaning because of the lack of concept art? really?
Who gives a F about the concept art? I care about what goes on in game not on a piece of paper.
I know it is important to the devs but to most of us we do not care, we care about what the mech looks like in game.
This post is the most trivial moan I have seen in this forum.
You keep your money and spend it on an artbook I will continue supporting the game I love.



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