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#1 DocBach

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:23 AM

I've made tons of suggestions about electronic warfare before, that usually read out like essays, so here's one that's not as long:

Buffing Beagle Active Probe to where it can see anything in a radius around it, including 'Mechs behind mountains or buildings normal sensor cannot see;

moving any sort of missile defeat from ECM to a third Ghost target mode, which is countered by Beagle Active Probe.

ECM hides enemy movement from Beagle; Beagle denies ECM's disruption of missile locks.

That way we get 1.5 ton pieces of equipment that can work to have an advantage over each other, and defeat each other depending on player use.

If PPC's jam out ECM, PPC's also jam out Beagle.

I also believe the complete information denial over entire grid squares is too much, and allowing targets in sensor range to be targeted, but not identified would go a long ways to qualm complaints about ECM; ECM's third mode would still provide protection against missiles, but also be counter-able by a similarly expensive 1.5 ton piece of equipment, instead of a 7 ton PPC.

Edited by DocBach, 28 February 2013 - 08:34 AM.


#2 schlaepf81

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:44 AM

Hi and nice idea.
Did u consider, that all mechs can carry BAP? Maybe some restriction, that only "scout"-mechs and LRM carriers can take it should then be added.

Btw. im new to the game and the forum. Was the idea of ECM with friendly-fire ever discussed? Plus: tag+artemis break ecm? tag like always=getting the target, and artemis for lock-on?

#3 Syllogy

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

ECM is being closely monitored. With the new changes to PPC's that disable ECM, any changes to ECM's current function are unlikely.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:49 AM

true

And the devs are working on the LRM and Artemis right now. Just grouping of the rockets, but lets see what that changes.

#5 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

I agree. BAP needs some lovin.

#6 focuspark

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:03 AM

I'd rather see BAP operate as a 360 degree sensor unit. Right now it's limited to the 90 degree cone in front of the mech, just like standard sensors.

#7 Taelon Zero

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:46 PM

BAP needs work. Non-LOS radar would work well.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

In the last Ask the Devs, the devs confirmed that BAP will not be limited to specific chassis like ECM. In addition, current trends make it seem like modules are the next big thing in sensors, not the BAP. I agree, the BAP probably does need a buff. I don't think it will happen, however.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

View PostFrostCollar, on 28 February 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

In the last Ask the Devs, the devs confirmed that BAP will not be limited to specific chassis like ECM. In addition, current trends make it seem like modules are the next big thing in sensors, not the BAP. I agree, the BAP probably does need a buff. I don't think it will happen, however.

If BAP must suck because Paul wants modules to be the "it thing" then ECM needs to suck too, and it doesn't.





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