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[Striker1980]

I may be over romanticising here but does anyone else remember the briefing style from Mechwarrior 3?

I think it was one of the first situations where a CGI command briefing was both cool, slick and informative, showing you drone style evidence of troop movements through the area of operations, describing the terrain, I always felt the briefings in Mechwarrior 4 were a little generic and plasticy,

I.E. Here is the map, voice over description of the operation, which rarely provides any useful intel, whist you pick your 'Mech and lance mates.

A lot of my friends remember the cut scenes in C&C being awesome (they were very good for the time), but for me it was MW3 briefings that stood the test of time, come to think of it the whole game just felt 'right' you know, an orbital insertion gone wrong, naval laser batteries to destroy, a hit and run campaign and a desperate fight to a drop ship to get the heck out of dodge.

Am I alone in remembering this this way?

-Striker

[Threat Doc]

No, you're dead-on. MechWarrior 3 was the closest any of the games have come thus far; I know MWO won't have those style of briefings, but maybe they'll eventually allow us to make our own briefings. I have loved MW3 since it came out, absolutely despised MW4 -though I've played all 3 single-player campaigns, and likely because I played it all on-line- and would love to see someone 'refurbish' that game, perhaps even expand it, for the current operating systems. Yes, yes, the game can be played on 7 with a bit of work, but it's not worth that work at this point, because MWO is coming out, and MWLL is, apparently, also a beautiful game.

[Sarriss]

3 was amazing. Still my favourite in the series. Although for me, I think Earth Siege 2's briefings were a little better. It was all FMV with a very annoyed commander. Of course, if you failed a mission, then he was...scary. That game was unique because if you failed, that was it, you just moved over that mission. Failed to protect that weapon cache? Well, guess you miss out on a better laser or weapon this time. Failed to escort that important person? Well, now all the intel we have is horrendously out of date, hope you can deal with going in blind. Plus it had the Razor, which was a fully customizable flying mech.Something insanely satisfying about flying ahead as a scout and commander and directing your troops aerially, then raining death on your enemies while they were too busy fighting your lancemates. MW3 was and is my favourite MW title, but damn if I didn't love ES2 almost as much.

Edited by Sarriss, 29 May 2012 - 05:28 AM.

[ilkhan]

I was really saddened I couldn't replay 3 when I dug out my old discs, it was enough effort getting Mechcommander to work.

MW3 is definitely the best MW game I've played styling wise. Just got to hope MW:O can beat it

[EyeOne]

I actually got MW3 some what working yesterday and played a couple of missions. The voice actor for the briefings nails it and makes it amazing. MW3 is a great campaign because of it.

[Striker1980]

ilkhan, on 29 May 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

I was really saddened I couldn't replay 3 when I dug out my old discs, it was enough effort getting Mechcommander to work.

MW3 is definitely the best MW game I've played styling wise. Just got to hope MW:O can beat it

Me too, I'm really hoping for some real 'atmosphere'.

[Striker1980]

Sarriss, on 29 May 2012 - 05:27 AM, said:

3 was amazing. Still my favourite in the series. Although for me, I think Earth Siege 2's briefings were a little better. It was all FMV with a very annoyed commander. Of course, if you failed a mission, then he was...scary. That game was unique because if you failed, that was it, you just moved over that mission. Failed to protect that weapon cache? Well, guess you miss out on a better laser or weapon this time. Failed to escort that important person? Well, now all the intel we have is horrendously out of date, hope you can deal with going in blind. Plus it had the Razor, which was a fully customizable flying mech.Something insanely satisfying about flying ahead as a scout and commander and directing your troops aerially, then raining death on your enemies while they were too busy fighting your lancemates. MW3 was and is my favourite MW title, but damn if I didn't love ES2 almost as much.

Never did try earthseige

[EyeOne]

Striker1980, on 29 May 2012 - 05:40 AM, said:

Never did try earthseige

Earthsiege 1 + Expansion and Earthsiege 2 are very good mech games (though, they are called "Hercs" in ES). But Starsiege (Earthsiege 3) was pretty poor. I played a lot of it for the multiplayer support but it wasn't a good ES game.

[jackswift]

That game was the one I spent hours in the mechlab trying to squeeze more speed or firepower out of my bushwacker. Only good memories come to mind including those magnificent briefings.

[Striker1980]

jackswift, on 29 May 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

That game was the one I spent hours in the mechlab trying to squeeze more speed or firepower out of my bushwacker. Only good memories come to mind including those magnificent briefings.

Spot on, I remember trying to do the exact same thing, or more specifically cobble together whatever I could with whatever ammo or weapons I could find, I remember ammo being a real problem, looking back, also an awesome feature, if you're behind enemy lines you need to do what ever you can to get your weapons working.

I really miss that Bushwacker, working on the basis that I was always looking for that bigger tougher 'mech despite in, retrospect the bushy being an amazing piece of kit. Large laser, LRM's and an AC10 I vaguely remember packing quite a punch. (this was probably over a decade ago though so don't press my memory too hard LOL!)

Edited by Striker1980, 29 May 2012 - 05:54 AM.

[C0VVB3LL]

I've played 2 and 4 but never had the pleasure of playing 3 does anyone know if it's a free DL yet and/or where to get it?
I'm sure others would be glad to know this also.

[Striker1980]

C0VVB3LL, on 29 May 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:

I've played 2 and 4 but never had the pleasure of playing 3 does anyone know if it's a free DL yet and/or where to get it?
I'm sure others would be glad to know this also.

I don't think it is yet, I am also aware that people are having real trouble with it on Windows 7, if you can find a copy though I highly recommend it.

Ironically I've played MW1, 3 and 4 but never 2 it was before my time and I can't find a legal download for it.

-Striker

[C0VVB3LL]

What a shame.

[Striker1980]

It gets worse I've been trying to play MW3 on my new PC, there are so many bugs, its unplayable, the magic is gone, a real shame I was in the middle of pounding the crap out of an Owens with my Bushwacker before it glitched after an SRM hit and made my Bushy fly off like a balloon!

[Arnie1808]

C0VVB3LL, on 29 May 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:

I've played 2 and 4 but never had the pleasure of playing 3 does anyone know if it's a free DL yet and/or where to get it?
I'm sure others would be glad to know this also.

You missed out on the best one mate.
2 was the reason I bought a 3DFX Voodoo card with my hard earned savings when I was a kid
3 Was THE best Mechwarrior experience to date!
4 Was an abomination and to me they some how took a step backwards not forwards.
4 Mercs did try harder and I did like the Solaris bits but still didn't stan up-to Mechwarrior 3's brilliance

Mechcommander was the game that got me into Battletech and still play it every now and again on an XP laptop in compatibility mode.
Mechcommander 2 was good but to me not as good as the 1st

Its seems that when Microsoft got its hands on the franchise they cocked things up and then they brought out Mech Insult which was the last nail in the coffin

[Striker1980]

Arnie1808, on 05 June 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

You missed out on the best one mate.
2 was the reason I bought a 3DFX Voodoo card with my hard earned savings when I was a kid
3 Was THE best Mechwarrior experience to date!
4 Was an abomination and to me they some how took a step backwards not forwards.
4 Mercs did try harder and I did like the Solaris bits but still didn't stan up-to Mechwarrior 3's brilliance

Mechcommander was the game that got me into Battletech and still play it every now and again on an XP laptop in compatibility mode.
Mechcommander 2 was good but to me not as good as the 1st

Its seems that when Microsoft got its hands on the franchise they cocked things up and then they brought out Mech Insult which was the last nail in the coffin

Yeah I know what you mean, it just made me sad when the game should have been getting better with better 'Mech 'tech etc. but the advantages of better 'tech, better PC's, Graphics cards, were completely negated for the wonder ment of making the game more 'accessible'

Accessible would be more stock mechs not dumbing down the game to the point where it felt like it was princes and princesses in space.

(don't get me started on MechASSault, pick ups? PICK UPS?? <- see you got me started, cool, it's cool, breath).

All I want to do is be fired out of jumpship in a dropship that lands on a planet in a commando raid and slit the bad guys throats whilst they sleep, is that so much to ask?

I'd settle for military style briefings with probe feeds and orbital intel if I had to, just not more irrelevant chit-chat over a load up screen and a bland map.