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[TheFlyingScotsman]

My revised build for my giant pink battering ram. As always, if you see something you see wrong, I value your input. This 'Mech has already broken 1k damage once, 800 three times, and usually breaks 600 every match.

Unlike most, I cannot stand the way SRM6s fire their payloads. (With or without Artemis) I hate the spread, I hate the heat, I hate the extra ammo/equipment weight, and I hate having to be hugging an enemy just to expect any reasonable portion of my SRMs to hit.

Lard-Lass
Atlas DD-C

53.4 KMH (STD 330)
FP 60 (2ML, AC20, 3SRM4+Art)
HE 1.43 (With 15 DHS)
576 (Standard armor)
Standard Structure (All but legs are maxed)

RA/LA: 1ML each
RT: AC20 (5 tons ammo, in legs and RT) CASE
LT: 3SRM4 + Artemis (4 tons ammo, in legs and LT) CASE
CT: Guardian EM

[Wrenchfarm]

Not bad. I sometimes prefer SRM4s too. You can improve it though.

You should use Endo and bump it up to a 350 engine. Easily accomplished and you lose nothing. Well, I suppose I took one less ton of AC20 ammo, but 35 rounds seems overly optimistic.

I also only used 1 CASE. Not sure why you need 2. Putting a CASE in the RT with the AC20 gives you just one slim slot to hold any ammo, I'd rather just drop it in the legs or LT where I still have room.

[Royalewithcheese]

I personally like putting my ammo that doesn't fit in the legs in the arms - I notice that people always go for my LT/RT and I don't want to make it easy for them

Back when I ran an AC20 it made that thing very hard to successfully take out.

[TheFlyingScotsman]

Royalewithcheese, on 01 March 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I personally like putting my ammo that doesn't fit in the legs in the arms - I notice that people always go for my LT/RT and I don't want to make it easy for them

Back when I ran an AC20 it made that thing very hard to successfully take out.

Wrenchfarm, on 01 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Not bad. I sometimes prefer SRM4s too. You can improve it though.

You should use Endo and bump it up to a 350 engine. Easily accomplished and you lose nothing. Well, I suppose I took one less ton of AC20 ammo, but 35 rounds seems overly optimistic.

I also only used 1 CASE. Not sure why you need 2. Putting a CASE in the RT with the AC20 gives you just one slim slot to hold any ammo, I'd rather just drop it in the legs or LT where I still have room.

Yeah. The problem is that I use the AC20 for suppression as much as for damage. I find that 28 is sometimes not enough to play a full round. The *lack of* speed doesn't bother me, as I often find people coming to me, and I can easily deal full FP at 200M+ thanks to artemis.

As for the double casing, I like to keep my ammo as spread about as possible, and dont miss the .5 tons of leg armor I lost to mount it.

[Wrenchfarm]

I think speed and torso twist you use all match in every situation is more important than a likely superfluous extra ton of ammo. You could also just drop a ton of SRM ammo and exchange it for another AC20 pack if you really want, 400 rounds for 3xSRM4s is 33 trigger pulls and probably a little much.

To each their own though.

[Hex Pallett]

I have no idea how you wasted all that tonnage that can be spared for a larger engine.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d8fb0331a9410c

EDIT: oops Wrenchfarm beat me to it

Edited by Helmstif, 01 March 2013 - 05:21 PM.

[Stingz]

[MixedRange] Disclaimer: I have never tried this build, and am a recent Atlas pilot. Save the AC/20 for close range. LRM to force the enemy to move, SRMs when the enemy is close.

[This] is what I plan to run in my own DDC, 3t+CASE since every time I step into SRM range my Gauss = boom. LRMs for Alpine, and not-shooing my teammates in the back.

Edited by Stingz, 01 March 2013 - 05:53 PM.

[TheFlyingScotsman]

Chances are I overdid it slightly, however I was previously using 1T less ammo for both the SRMs and the AC20, and ran out of ammo for each on multiple occasions. The extra weight came from leg armor, which never seems to be what my enemies are targeting. I'm tempted to strip more armor from my arms and get a bigger engine, per your reccomendations. (Which are basically shields with an ml each anyway.)

Thanks for all the advice!

[p00k]

so...
you want 5tons for the ac20?

http://mechromancer....1,0,1,1,0,0,0,0

some people don't like running that low armor on legs, but as someone with over a million surplus xp in atlases after mastering them, i have never once been legged. you can also take the legs to 65 and drop the arms to 60 if you'd rather, i like to have as much arm armor as possible to shield torsos with only 2 mlas it's less of an issue

alternately you can swap out a ton of srm ammo for ac20 if you want to keep more leg armor. running srm4's helps quite nicely to this effect in that you're a lot more ammo efficient; many people use 4 tons, some only 3, with 3xsrm6, so 3tons for 3xsrm4 should be ample

also fyi ecm negates artemis's clustering bonus, which you'll see everywhere, so unless you like to switch your ecm to counter back and forth and hope they're not stacked in disrupt you're wasting some of that

Edited by p00k, 01 March 2013 - 09:14 PM.

[Dulahan]

Huh, kinda similar philosophy to what I'm using:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fe09921333b3798

Which I am promptly posting for suggestions.

It feels like the LLs tend to be my main source of damage on a lot of maps, but especially on Alpine. Since some of them can see the majority of combat being well outside of the range of my AC20 or SRMs. So if anything the LLs are almost the core of the mech, for me. But I use them over ERs since when things do finally get up close and personal, they're not so hot and keep me in the fight longer.

The SRM6s get used as often as 'shotguns' to against Lights as anything else. But I am probably open to suggestions to improve and using the 4s.

When I'm supported and in a brawl though, this thing's a beast. And I'm far from a good player as I'm sure my profile will prove.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure the Armor is distributed a bit differently than on Smurfy. I just built to the same 'total armor' for the whole mech for weight purposes.

Edited by Dulahan, 01 March 2013 - 09:29 PM.