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#1 Schranz

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

I used to love this game, i even bought some MC thank god i#m not a founder though. I gave this game a rest when the ECM module came out and hoped it was just FOTM and would be countered by yet to be seen tech.

So i visit the forum today to see if changes where made and guess what even after a few months,.. nothing..

I would like to see unique logins before and after the "brilliant" implementation of the godmode device, i can't believe i'm the only one that feels like this. I really wants to love this game even if that love was solely based on the lore and the stompy robot aspect. But the devs make it so hard for us to just play the game we want to play.

ECM is by far my biggest problem and although i always hated nightmaps i could live with the irritation of a horrible green hud level every once in a while.

Please fix ECM so that it has a valid counter or i fear it will be 4 on 4 soon,.. And why do people say if you can choose the maps then people will not play some,..well hello,..maybe its because those maps suck. See it as natural selection ****** maps get no love and the devs will know wich ones get played more and make bigger and better versions of those.

I dont get paid to play this game so the game must be the reward in itsself and in its current state its nowhere near fun for me anymore.


I'm probably speaking to 'dev ears' again :) but hey so be it,.. i'll uninstall this piece of ECM terror and see if it still isnt changed in a few months


Bye for now

#2 Tarman

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:54 AM

[REDACTED] Leaving isn't gonna teach you any wargame skills except for Retreat.

Edited by Viterbi, 02 March 2013 - 02:39 PM.
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#3 Broceratops

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:55 AM

its hard to balance a game around ragequitters

#4 christophermx4

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:55 AM

ECM's implementation needs work still, but overall, I feel the game has improved for the last few months.

View PostBroceratops, on 02 March 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

its hard to balance a game around ragequitters


This.

#5 Ranek Blackstone

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

I run a mech that lacks missle hardpoints, so ECM doesn't bother me none. And when mech legs get their hitboxes redone in the March 5 patch, lights will have even easier to kill. And with state rewind in the works, it's just going to get better.

#6 Skaroth

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

I called the whambulance for you, should be there in a few minutes.

Seriously though, bye :)

#7 soapyfrog

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:57 AM

In the process of eliting my Trebuchet and as a result using a LOT of LRMs... I have to say ECM is not that big of a deal.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:57 AM

It's hard to improve upon things, if on any mentioning of problems and imbalance improvement the fanboy mob comes to assure everyone that nothing is wrong and no change is needed.

#9 Karl Split

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

yeah ecm still blows aye and there are very few maps.

But the game is changing come back in a few months and have another look, bet it'll feel like a whole new kettle of fish then.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:02 AM

View PostLyteros, on 02 March 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

It's hard to improve upon things, if on any mentioning of problems and imbalance improvement the fanboy mob comes to assure everyone that nothing is wrong and no change is needed.



No fanboys in here pilot, everybody knows what's borked with this game. But note how most people don't run away crying because of it.

#11 Yokaiko

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

Well we can add that to the list.

So we are up to what now.

K2s
Atlasonline
LRM online
Streak-a-pults
Gauss (no mech required)
LRM (times like 50)
SRM
Ravens
ECM

....all of which makes people ragequit.....does any body like anything around here? I'm starting to doubt it.

#12 Schranz

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:10 AM

i hope so and the people who say dont use missilies,..well i did,..i posted that earlier or is the lagshield gone now? And dont you think its a bit silly to cancell out an entire string of weapons with a 2 ton piece of hardware that does stealth too,.. the l2p crowd probably drives a raven :) haha

I did adopt at first i couldnt beat em with lasers or balistics my prefered weapons but the rediculous lag made me have to lead shots by 200 meters, so i went to missiles out of need,..then guess what they nerfed any form of guided missiles so the lagshield was even better,..

Lets ditch all weapons and use sticks cause all the leet players know sticks are the only weapon that takes skill,..

View PostLyteros, on 02 March 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

It's hard to improve upon things, if on any mentioning of problems and imbalance improvement the fanboy mob comes to assure everyone that nothing is wrong and no change is needed.


But even the fans of the lore say that there was no such hardware at the current timeframe and that this ECM is a merge of tech,..

Its like having a laserguided tracking gauss rifle,.. why not combine those then

#13 Schranz

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:14 AM

View PostTarman, on 02 March 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

You probably still suck because you stopped learning to play instead of dealing with it like everyone else. Leaving isn't gonna teach you any wargame skills except for Retreat.


Wargame skills like buy raven or cent. buy ecm buy ssrm and circle lol anyone who wants another mech? Sure what a fun game

#14 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:16 AM

Maybe if you were around, or at the very least caught up with whats bee updated. You will see something about ppc and ecm and the other ways to counter ecm. Its not god mode, you just lack the imagination to see past your rage and actually learn the counters to ecm.

Go play a game where you dont have to think and all you need to do is mesh buttons and have a crappy aim.

#15 Galathon Redd

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:17 AM

Just when you thought it was safe to visit the Forum...

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#16 Lyteros

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostTarman, on 02 March 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:



No fanboys in here pilot, everybody knows what's borked with this game. But note how most people don't run away crying because of it.


If this is the case, what is then the point in ridiculing people and posts which articulate their feelings towards certain items? Items that are seen as FOTM by a lot of the community for the last quarter year by the community?
Why the need to attack and discredit someone directly as whiner instead of adressing the issue?

I'm tired by the lack of foresight, attacking everything and everyone that just might dissaprove on something or show some problem with this game. Without criticism and pointing out of errors there is just stagnation, since everything is ok.
Stagnation leads to nothing. Blind loyality leads to nothing. We all want the game to be a succes, but this is not achived by ignoring everything we dont like and turning our eyes away.

#17 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:20 AM

View PostLyteros, on 02 March 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:


If this is the case, what is then the point in ridiculing people and posts which articulate their feelings towards certain items? Items that are seen as FOTM by a lot of the community for the last quarter year by the community?
Why the need to attack and discredit someone directly as whiner instead of adressing the issue?

I'm tired by the lack of foresight, attacking everything and everyone that just might dissaprove on something or show some problem with this game. Without criticism and pointing out of errors there is just stagnation, since everything is ok.
Stagnation leads to nothing. Blind loyality leads to nothing. We all want the game to be a succes, but this is not achived by ignoring everything we dont like and turning our eyes away.

"its not what you say. Its how you say it." :)

#18 Tarman

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:25 AM

View PostFunkadelic Mayhem, on 02 March 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

"its not what you say. Its how you say it." :)


This.

Valid concerns about game issues? We all have them. Nomap bugs. CTD. Weird things with tonnage in the new Elo drops. ECM being way too strong for its resource cost. Duh.

Framing these issues in OMG IMA RUN AWAY BECAUSE THERES BAD STUFFS does not engender discussion, especially on an internet forum. Ragequit posts get sniped because they're ragequit posts; their content is irrelevant as soon as the QQ BAI part is added on.

#19 Schranz

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:27 AM

i aggree and id rather run away crying then sit behind my pc frustrated, its a game it is supposed to be fun, i dont need a one button win mode i just want my lasers to hit where i aim client side, choose the maps i want to play, and use any mech that doesnt have ECM without gimping myself.. what other firstperson multiplayer game doesnt let you choose the map,.. or has no lobby,..i liked the game better when ECM was not in it sure LRM frustrated me sometimes but then i took a good look at myself and said hmm maybe just maybe running out in an open plain would not a a verry strategic way of going about things,..

But in its current state the way lights are so OP,..its just boring,. i dont think theres anywhere in any lore ever that a raven circle lolled an Atlas,.. ever

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

View PostLyteros, on 02 March 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:


If this is the case, what is then the point in ridiculing people and posts which articulate their feelings towards certain items? Items that are seen as FOTM by a lot of the community for the last quarter year by the community?
Why the need to attack and discredit someone directly as whiner instead of adressing the issue?

I'm tired by the lack of foresight, attacking everything and everyone that just might dissaprove on something or show some problem with this game. Without criticism and pointing out of errors there is just stagnation, since everything is ok.
Stagnation leads to nothing. Blind loyality leads to nothing. We all want the game to be a succes, but this is not achived by ignoring everything we dont like and turning our eyes away.


Because when people keep beating that dead horse into glue, bring in another horse, kill it, beat that into glue, repeat for 20 more horses, and then using all that glue to combine all the other remaining pieces of horse into one final horse and bludgeon that one to death, people need to just shut up or put up.

I love how there are as many "LRM warrior online/LRM spam threads" as ECM threads at the moment, and it's hilarious.

Not to mention OP says that there haven't been any changes to ECM since its inception, you know, other than the TAG, module and sensor changes at the very least.

Combine all of these and you realize these posters are just bads or full of ****.

Edited by hammerreborn, 02 March 2013 - 11:29 AM.






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