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[Dead Tom Kerensky]

I was entertaining the ridiculous idea of spending the $30 for a single mech. I have no intention of doing so now. I will not support a company that puts a deliberate pay 2 win scheme into place especially after detailing how they don't believe in it while the game was being developed. I don't appreciate the dishonesty and am glad I have not spent any real money on this game.

Edited by Mute Lunatic, 05 March 2013 - 05:16 AM.

[Belorion]

And what is this pay 2 win scheme of which you speak?

[KovarD]

I was planning to buy more MCs for hero mechs too, but since MWO is going to be P2W, I will not buy MC anymore.

I not support P2W.

[Heffay]

Belorion, on 05 March 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

And what is this pay 2 win scheme of which you speak?

Consumables. Essentially gold ammo.

[jakucha]

Heffay, on 05 March 2013 - 05:23 AM, said:

Consumables. Essentially gold ammo.

Except not. Comparing ammo that does more damage for as long as you have it, potentially the entire round, doesn't equal a 1 shot (or 2 with c-bill version) temporary coolant flush.

Edited by jakucha, 05 March 2013 - 05:28 AM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

jakucha, on 05 March 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

Except not. Comparing ammo that does more damage for as long as you have it, potentially the entire round, doesn't equal a 1 shot (or 2 with c-bill version) temporary coolant flush.

... so 2-3 extra alpha strikes from a 6PPC boat doesn't count as Pay 2 Win?

[Heffay]

jakucha, on 05 March 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

Except not. Comparing ammo that does more damage for as long as you have it, potentially the entire round, doesn't equal a 1 shot (or 2 with c-bill version) temporary coolant flush.

Imagine there are 3 DPS increasing modules like coolant flush. You can pay and have all 3, or not pay and limit yourself to 1 + a partial.

If you pay, you get higher DPS. Period.

[John MatriX82]

Belorion, on 05 March 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

And what is this pay 2 win scheme of which you speak?

Tier 3 modules that allow to stack 3 modules of tier 3 with mc only vs F2P players that to reach the same effect need to stack 2 modules. Therefore tier 3 buyers will have a huge advantage employing all modules in a single slot, while F2 players will be stuck to tier 2 modules.

Think it also in a competitive and/or Community Warfare perspective and the thing leans towards P2W in a matter of seconds.

Edited by John MatriX82, 05 March 2013 - 05:31 AM.

[danust]

I just see it as a gimmick, Max two flushes per match. But it could in those perfect conditions get a kill when both are heated to the max.

If I was sitting on 200 million bills would buy every match. Otherwise, meh.

*I don't like it but we will have to see.

Edited by Leedair, 05 March 2013 - 05:33 AM.

[Enig]

Marmosets P2W? I think not, but you're really going to love Consumables! Check my signature for hypocrisy

[El Penguin]

Sorta same here OP. Was going to buy the Cicada hero mech but not anymore until this gets changed.

[Matt Minus]

Mute Lunatic, on 05 March 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

I was entertaining the ridiculous idea of spending the $30 for a single mech. I have no intention of doing so now. I will not support a company that puts a deliberate pay 2 win scheme into place especially after detailing how they don't believe in it while the game was being developed. I don't appreciate the dishonesty and am glad I have not spent any real money on this game.

Does anyone really believe this guy was ever going to spend any money on teh game?

Of course he wasn't, it's just a fun way for him to QQ now that he's bumhurt that the game actually offers very slight rewards to the people that sustain it.

Enig, on 05 March 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Marmosets P2W? I think not, but you're really going to love Consumables! Check my signature for hypocrisy

All I see in your sig is a failure of reading comprehension. Coolant pods =/= coolant flush.

Edited by Matt Minus, 05 March 2013 - 05:38 AM.

[SubXulu]

I have 600 MC's left for 2 more mech bays, but thats it, i wont be buying any more. Consumables was the reason i left WoT.

[xhrit]

I was going to buy more mech bays.

Instead, I won't be playing at all now.

P2W is for schmucks.

[John Johnson]

Heh, I actually did spend money on an Ilya, since I wanted to support the game (and boat ballistics; I had no idea Catapults of all mechs were able to have twin ac20's). I'm not as big a fan as most people here since I know nothing about the lore or tabletop, but my first game ever was Mechwarrior 2, and I've loved Mechs and Mechwarrior ever since.

I want this game to succeed, but I'm very worried about both this games direction and its development. Its severely lacking in content compared to other free to play games, and now its including pay to win features? Its still in open beta, the game isn't even officially out, and already its pay2win? Most games with pay2win seem to do it LATER, not at the very beginning.

It is likely the Ilya will be my only "investment" into this game, at least until I see something more.

[jakucha]

Jade Kitsune, on 05 March 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

... so 2-3 extra alpha strikes from a 6PPC boat doesn't count as Pay 2 Win?

No, because c-bill users can get it too. With two uses a match rather than one, which is arguably better.

Edited by jakucha, 05 March 2013 - 06:04 AM.

[The Exiled]

once the founders MC runs out there is no way on earth i will spend more, the CW's can go to **** for all i care. I might pop on every now and then for a couple of random games, but i wont support this kind of pay to win game

[Ashnod]

jakucha, on 05 March 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

Except not. Comparing ammo that does more damage for as long as you have it, potentially the entire round, doesn't equal a 1 shot (or 2 with c-bill version) temporary coolant flush.

It's not just coolant flush as well genius.. It's also artillery and air strikes as well as whatever else they decide should have a gold standard later down the road...

[jakucha]

Ashnod, on 05 March 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

It's not just coolant flush as well genius.. It's also artillery and air strikes as well as whatever else they decide should have a gold standard later down the road...

Which you have 0 idea of how they will work right now, genius. All of these are still works in progress anyway, Einstein.

Edited by jakucha, 05 March 2013 - 06:17 AM.

[Shazarad]

Mute Lunatic, on 05 March 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

I was entertaining the ridiculous idea of spending the $30 for a single mech. I have no intention of doing so now. I will not support a company that puts a deliberate pay 2 win scheme into place especially after detailing how they don't believe in it while the game was being developed. I don't appreciate the dishonesty and am glad I have not spent any real money on this game.

I remember the first time people talked about PEE TEE DUBS (Yen-Lo-WIGGITY-Wang). The sky sure fell that time and people left the game in droves. Now, it's only Founders playing, just like everyone said.

Right?