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#1 Featherwood

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:39 PM

Today another patch was delivered: lot of interesting things, adjustments, improvements et.c. - good job, devs, really good job! Thank you.

BUT (this is really huge 'but' for me): despite all communication letters from PGI (March 2013 update, command chairs and so on) we, MWO community, still have no any clues if PGI going to fix most unbalanced triad in the game: ECM+S-SSRMs+RVN-3L. Despite all the discontent, displeasure, spite and grudge many of us, mere gamers, expressed toward current ECM realization, we still deserved no clear responce from PGI on it.

Dear devs, may I ask you, if ECM will be fixed ever?

Edited by Featherwood, 05 March 2013 - 12:51 PM.


#2 Wispsy

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:40 PM

I imagine they wish to see the effect that other weapons hitting as they should has on gameplay before they change them.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:40 PM

Are they going to ignore the community about ECM and SSRMs?

Probably.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:42 PM

View PostFeatherwood, on 05 March 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Is Pgi Going To Ignore Community' Discontent By Ecm+S-Srms Any Longer?


To the extent that they have been ignoring you so far, yes. I'm sure they're aware of community discontent and simply aren't going to tell you they're working on a fix when they're not convinced there needs to be one and they're continuing to gather data.

Both of these things appear to be working as intended, they will have to decide if they want to change the intention before they 'fix' these things. (Mind, I am pro-change on ECM, I just suspect tweaks to it will be slow in coming).

#5 Featherwood

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

View PostHeadlessnewt, on 05 March 2013 - 12:42 PM, said:


To the extent that they have been ignoring you so far, yes. I'm sure they're aware of community discontent and simply aren't going to tell you they're working on a fix when they're not convinced there needs to be one and they're continuing to gather data.

Both of these things appear to be working as intended, they will have to decide if they want to change the intention before they 'fix' these things. (Mind, I am pro-change on ECM, I just suspect tweaks to it will be slow in coming).


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#6 Ransack

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

Yes they will. Why? because some people are saying that they are fine, while others say they are not. Who do the Devs cater to?

#7 Voridan Atreides

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostEyeOne, on 05 March 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

Are they going to ignore the community about ECM and SSRMs?

Probably.


Wrong.

#8 Homeless Bill

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:48 PM

View PostWispsy, on 05 March 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

I imagine they wish to see the effect that other weapons hitting as they should has on gameplay before they change them.

This. Keep your panties on. You've dealt with it for this long; you can wait a while longer.

#9 Voridan Atreides

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:48 PM

View PostRansack, on 05 March 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

Yes they will. Why? because some people are saying that they are fine, while others say they are not. Who do the Devs cater to?


There has been more ECM rage then anything. How do you know that they might be working on it right now?

#10 R Hauer

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:50 PM

What the hell is a "triade"?

#11 DaZur

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:50 PM

PGI has stated that post-analysis of rewind will possibly result in some balance corrections FWIW...

Edited by DaZur, 05 March 2013 - 12:53 PM.


#12 Featherwood

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:51 PM

I wonder if Coolant Flush+ PPCs builds will draw same amount of rage, that's why I'd prefer to get some PGI answer before comsumables released.

#13 Featherwood

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

View PostR Hauer, on 05 March 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

What the hell is a "triade"?

Thanks, fixed it.

#14 Deathlike

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

I suggest you use the Game Balance forum with constructive criticism to get your point across. Snarky remarks would just get ignored.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

View PostVoridan Atreides, on 05 March 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:


There has been more ECM rage then anything. How do you know that they might be working on it right now?

Because each and every PGI employee has not personally dropped into every ECM discussion (cough) genuflected and personally acknowledged that they are forgoing sleep and sustenance to placate their every ECM request.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

Just like Wispsy said, wait until the Ballistics get their HSR, then we may see something on ECM/Streaks...

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:00 PM

I am truly about to join the ECM bandwagon. NEver ran a mech with it on it but I am getting close to buying a Raven 3l. Problem is I dont have any other ravens and my slow raven will get eaten alive :D

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:02 PM

View PostViper69, on 05 March 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

I am truly about to join the ECM bandwagon. NEver ran a mech with it on it but I am getting close to buying a Raven 3l. Problem is I dont have any other ravens and my slow raven will get eaten alive :D

Pop a XL295 in there and it will be more than fast enough to murder any other light mech be effective. The 3L has a higher engine cap than the others anyways. Speed tweak is useful but not necessary. Anyways, the 2X and 4X and pretty terrible mechs all around.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:02 PM

State rewind IS the first step in addressing the power level of ECM+SSRM lights, not just the raven but all lights that were able to take "too many hits".

Grab an LPL and fry that ECM Raven.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 05 March 2013 - 01:03 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostFeatherwood, on 05 March 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Today another patch was delivered: lot of interesting things, adjustments, improvements et.c. - good job, devs, really good job! Thank you.

BUT (this is really huge 'but' for me): despite all communication letters from PGI (March 2013 update, command chairs and so on) we, MWO community, still have no any clues if PGI going to fix most unbalanced triad in the game: ECM+S-SSRMs+RVN-3L. Despite all the discontent, displeasure, spite and grudge many of us, mere gamers, expressed toward current ECM realization, we still deserved no clear responce from PGI on it.

Dear devs, may I ask you, if ECM will be fixed ever?


The developers, PGI, I saw them using said triad. In fact, they killed me. :D Bet a dollar they are here to stay.

More likely: A hero Raven which can carry dual ECM.





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