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#1 Righ

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:02 PM

Are people seriously whining when the enemy team outcaptures them in Conquest? I can't tell you how many times kids have had a fit because my team won with only two players left by capturing more points. It's ridiculous. And it's not just typical sore losers, it's people that are legitimately upset because we didn't all bunch up in the center of the map and kill each other in some giant slugging match.

Let me clue you in: different game types have different objectives. Your PRIMARY OBJECTIVE will always be according to the game type you are in. In other words, if you play ASSAULT, your PRIMARY OBJECTIVE is to "ASSAULT" the enemy base. Generally this ends in one team wiping out the other, but can sometimes end with a base getting taken. If you play CONQUEST, your PRIMARY OBJECTIVE is to CAPTURE AND HOLD as many points as possible, which racks up tickets for your team. Your SECONDARY OBJECTIVE in both game types is to DESTROY ALL ENEMIES. That means taking out the enemy should not be your first concern, unless they have become a threat or are impeding your progress.

Remember this, because when you've all gathered on a hill to have a slap-fight, I'm going to be winning the match.

Edited by Righ, 07 March 2013 - 05:03 PM.


#2 Fajther

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

I can't tell you how many times I have had people swear at me in the chat because I spent all my time capping bases instead of fighting. Really? If you think fighting is the most important, stick to assault

#3 Rippthrough

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

I like to shoot mechs in my game.

#4 Odins Fist

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:10 PM

I downloaded and installed MWO to purchase a Light Mech, then ignore combat and capture a base...!!
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Yeah buddy, that's why people download MWO alright... :P

Edited by Odins Fist, 07 March 2013 - 05:11 PM.


#5 Fajther

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:11 PM

View PostRippthrough, on 07 March 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

I like to shoot mechs in my game.


View PostRippthrough, on 07 March 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

I like to shoot mechs in my game.


So you don't like winning? You just like shooting stuff? So you are playing all training grounds so you can shoot a bunch of stuff?

#6 Taemien

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

That's the problem with this community. Its full of players who believe their way of playing is not only the most effective way of playing, but the only way people SHOULD be playing. Whether it be how you play a gamemode (wow.. Conquest was intended to be for capture too...) or even how you play your class of mech (people say lights SHOULD ONLY EVER SCOUT). They say their way or the highway.

Play the way you like, play the way you see your own results and stick to that. Give the middle finger to those who say otherwise.

Have fun. That's why we're here.


View PostOdins Fist, on 07 March 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

I downloaded and installed MWO to purchase a Light Mech, then ignore combat and capture a base...!!
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Yeah buddy, that's why people download MWO alright... :P



View PostLivewyr, on 07 March 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

The disgusting thing is..
Raven's are supposed to be scouts or command vehicles.. not light hunters/harassers.

#stillwaitingforinfowarfare


I swear to god this community has no flipping idea of what it wants lol.

Edited by Taemien, 07 March 2013 - 05:16 PM.


#7 tuokaerf

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:20 PM

People can't read and they're stupid. I mean, if you run into the other team, by all means pound away and kill everything. But it's not "lame" or "weak" to cap in Capture...

#8 Odins Fist

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:20 PM

View PostTaemien, on 07 March 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

I swear to god this community has no flipping idea of what it wants lol.

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It wants "CAP RACES", that's why they sell ER-Large Lasers didn't ya know..??

Edited by Odins Fist, 07 March 2013 - 05:21 PM.


#9 Cur

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

I love it when people cry about wins from base capping. Especially when they call you out on being "too afraid" to fight them when theres 4 people left on each side, and when the game ends you see they have 4 heavy's/assaults vs your 4 mediums and lights :P

How dare we win by completing the game objective? Damn im such a scumbag!

#10 Righ

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:49 PM

View PostOdins Fist, on 07 March 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

I downloaded and installed MWO to purchase a Light Mech, then ignore combat and capture a base...!!
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Yeah buddy, that's why people download MWO alright... :P


Nobody said anything about zero combat. 'Mech shootan has a time and place, but so do tactics and evasion. Honestly, one of the biggest reasons I downloaded this game was to finally have a reason to pilot my favorite light 'mech - the Commando. I can capture objectives while doing quick raids as intended.

#11 Tincan Nightmare

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:54 PM

Well I do get dissappointed in Assault when a cap ends the match early on, before we get to have any fun with the pewpew and dakadaka. It does seem slightly ********.... er mentally impaired to complain about this in Conquest. I mean the whole 5 base things that make your number go up seems kinda basic, but maybe its to complex. :P

#12 Khobai

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:57 PM

The problem with capture gamemodes is that theyre biased towards fast mechs. We need a gamemode thats biased towards slow mechs to bring better equality to the weight classes.

#13 Greyfyl

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:57 PM

Why would you go out of your way to avoid fighting in a mech game? It's about big stompy mechs beating the living snot out of each other. I don't understand the whole 'winning is more important than fighting' crowd. What are you winning? Boost your stats by avoiding what the game is about.....ok then.

#14 FrostCollar

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

Capture wins are barely rewarded. That might be wrong, but it's a fact and one of the main reasons people complain. Another, of course, is that capture races are generally not very fun.

#15 Khobai

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:03 PM

Im fine with having capture gamemodes... but I want deathmatch, attacker/defender, and king-of-the-hill gamemodes too.

#16 ferranis

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:10 PM

Standing in a box simulator is not the kind of game i want to play.

Give Assault something, well to assault.. Objective in the middle of the map or a attack/defend mutator. As we have this (sort of) already in conquest - call Assault TDM, timelimit to 10 mins and have most people satisfied.

#17 Tarman

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:15 PM

Oboy this one again.

#18 Taemien

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:17 PM

View PostKhobai, on 07 March 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

The problem with capture gamemodes is that theyre biased towards fast mechs. We need a gamemode thats biased towards slow mechs to bring better equality to the weight classes.


They do, its called Assault. Get your slow big mechs and sit in your own base and dare the other team to take it from you. Worst case scenario, the game ends in a tie because they're too timid to come close... or you get a premade that calls your bluff. But at least if they call the bluff you get your fight you wanted.

#19 Khobai

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

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They do, its called Assault


Assault is biased towards lights. When we do 4 mans we can win 95% of our base assault games by capping with light mechs.

#20 Taemien

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:25 PM

View PostKhobai, on 07 March 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:


Assault is biased towards lights. When we do 4 mans we can win 95% of our base assault games by capping with light mechs.


Then the assaults are doing it wrong. They should lose.





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