22 replies to this topic

[Fabjoe]

Hey guys,
I'm new to this game and what I wanted to find was a mech with lots of lasers on it but
it's pretty hard to sort trough all the stuff here so I just wanted to ask the more expert players wich
the best mech for alot of lasers is.
thx in advance fabjoe

[Broad5ide]

depends on what you're looking for size wise. Lots of lights are good for energy weapons. Otherwise the HBK-4P is the clear winner for mediums. Lots of larges have 4 energy hardpoints so if you're looking for one of those then what matters is what you want the other hardpoints to be. Finally in the assaults the clear winners are the AWS-8Q at 7 energy hard points or one of the 6 energy stalker variants.

[knight-of-ni]

Well, the Hunchback is often recommended to those starting out. It's pretty flexible, thus allowing you to try out many different configurations to find out just what you like. The HBK-4P has 9 energy hardpoints, which would give you the opportunity to learn the ins and outs of a laser boat.

That's the short answer to your question. We really need to know what kind of role you intend to play in order to give a more specific answer. Knowing why you came to the conclusion of energy weapons over a more balanced build would also help to find a good fit for you.

It's ok if you don't know yet what you like, that's part of learning the game.

Edited by knnniggett, 06 March 2013 - 06:16 AM.

[Lyrik]

Hoi,

here is the easy answer :
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

Longer Answer:
Lights: Jenner F
Medium: Hunchback 4p
Heavy: Dragon 1C or Catapult K2
Assault: Awesome 9M/Atlas RS

Beware that lasers or ppc run very hot. But at least they don't need any ammunation.

Have fun and good luck

[Arete]

If you want a LOT of lasers.... Hunchback 4P. Can fit 9 mediums on that baby if you want to. Careful with the heat though.

I've messed around quite a bit with LL boats in the past. Awesome 8Q can fit 6 LLs on it, and it works decently. Can't really alpha too much though, but you can alpha twice then you need to cut down and go for chain fire (or even better, hide and cool down).
CTF-1X can also boat LLs decently, I used a setup with 2 ERLLs for sniping and 3 LLs for medium/close range continous fire.

Stalkers are also decent LL boats.

Some examples at least.

[Fabjoe]

thanks people for this quick an awesome reply.

so well i don't really care alot about mobility for a laser mech because i have a comando with machine guns that's the one i use for fast fighting.
well one thing i would need to know wich one would work the best to give one damn hard alpha strike with the lasers
or one that has some hard hitting lasers and maybe a ppc or 2

[Th0rsten]

I would like to see a commando with machine guns oO

edit: experiment in smurfys. the weapon lab gives you a lot information about heat, alpha, dps etc

Edited by Th0rsten, 06 March 2013 - 06:30 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

Fabjoe, on 06 March 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

thanks people for this quick an awesome reply.

so well i don't really care alot about mobility for a laser mech because i have a comando with machine guns that's the one i use for fast fighting.
well one thing i would need to know wich one would work the best to give one damn hard alpha strike with the lasers
or one that has some hard hitting lasers and maybe a ppc or 2

If you want to maximize an alpha strike, look at a Stalker 3F. you can mount up to 6 PPCs or 6 large lasers (I don't recommend that many, but that's your maximum)

[Arete]

Fabjoe, on 06 March 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

thanks people for this quick an awesome reply.

so well i don't really care alot about mobility for a laser mech because i have a comando with machine guns that's the one i use for fast fighting.
well one thing i would need to know wich one would work the best to give one damn hard alpha strike with the lasers
or one that has some hard hitting lasers and maybe a ppc or 2

Then you're looking for a stalker or an awesome 8Q. Stalkers are better armored, but have less mobility.

[Flapdrol]

Lyrik, on 06 March 2013 - 06:10 AM, said:

Hoi,

here is the easy answer :
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

Longer Answer:
Lights: Jenner F
Medium: Hunchback 4p
Heavy: Dragon 1C or Catapult K2
Assault: Awesome 9M/Atlas RS

Beware that lasers or ppc run very hot. But at least they don't need any ammunation.

Have fun and good luck

For assault I'd recommend the stalker 5M with 5 Large lasers, will be able to fit more double heatsinks than all other mechs with that loadout.

Edited by Flapdrol, 06 March 2013 - 07:33 AM.

[Mechteric]

If you want something faster than one of those slothy Stalkers, try this AWS-9M on for size (up to 80.2kph, 4 ER Large, AMS, 22 DHS)

[Splinters]

For assaults, another bump for Stalker 3F (torso twist range) and 5M (5 LL's and DHS combo).

I personally enjoy the Cicada 3M with 4 MPL's as well. Great for going up to shut down mechs to blow up the cockpit or tear apart a torso that's already opened up. It's kill stealing to some, but it's great fun to be able to walk up and take down a guy in his face.

-S

[Fabjoe]

it's greate to have so much players willing to help here =) thanks people!
will try out some of those set ups but I've got 2 more questions:
what is the difference betwen er ppc and normal ppc or laser
and can I somehow increase the range of lasers ?

[Gothbloodman]

Ohm made a cool quick reference sheet.

[Reported for Inappropriate Name]

there are some good lights for lasers but i don't think they get ecm.. but 4p is good with medium or small, you can go with the classic 7 mpl aws-8q, stalker 3f 5s or 5m are good for large lasers. 3f being as good as 5s but with one less ams and more torso twist (one less ams means 2.5 tons more engine or an extra heatsink and 1.5 tons of engine), and 5m being good because it is the only stalker that can still fight without its side torsos.

in fact, this build is very good if you like to stalk your prey:

Meet the Blue Light Special,
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...92545f45da4636e

left arm lasers on a weapon group, staggered. Right arm lasers on a weapon group, staggered. fire them together to get groups of 2 or individually depending on heat. this will also let you partially expose and fire only one arms worth of lasers+ whatever exposed torso laser

torso lasers on primary weapon group, unstaggered by default. group selector should be left on primary group in the event heat becomes an issue and you need to enable stagger.

feel free to swap the er for standard, but I prefer having a little long range bite just in case, and outside of alpha, never fire more than two at once as fast as your heat level will allow even if this means they overlap in firing time, clicking twice fast on the staggered 2 laser groupings is more or less the same effect as firing the whole grouping at once


do not brawl as long as you have a choice because while it has some bite for direct engagements, with the limited torso twist it takes an experienced player to keep flankers in the crosshair and even then it's touch and go. this build is for support and finds its strength at supporting brawlers, melting side torsos in prolonged fights, and killing mechs outside their own effective weapons range. two ams and four tons of ammo means you usually have enough for even the worst of situations.

although with the netcode changes, i suppose this mech will be even more brutal. 54 damage alpha followed by cycling 2 salvos eats the sides off of atlases very quickly and obliterates lights mediums and some heavies.

Edited by Battlecruiser, 06 March 2013 - 12:29 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Another incredible laser platform is the DRG-Flame hero mech, but that one requires real money to get, as opposed to C-Bills. Slap four Large Lasers on it, staggering the arms to manage heat if necessary, and you can put a lot of damage on a pinpoint location very quickly, while moving at 89+ KPH once you get speed tweak on it, which is a mech tree perk you eventually unlock per chassis.

The advantage the Flame has over the DRG-1C or the K2 catapult is that since the lasers are all arm mounted, you have an incredible range of motion with your beams, plus it makes pinpointing the lasers into someone's head a lot easier.

[Corvus Antaka]

Awesome, Jenner, Hunchback.

[Fabian Wrede]

The answer to this question, what is the best mech, is always the same.

THE ONE YOU HAVE THE MOST FUN PLAYING

[Fabjoe]

Wrede, on 06 March 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

The answer to this question, what is the best mech, is always the same.

THE ONE YOU HAVE THE MOST FUN PLAYING

well you didn't understand my question then it was not about wich is the best but wich one fits the most lasers because I
have fun with lasers

[focuspark]

Best mech for lasers is the Stalker. That's what it does.