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[MattheusX]

Does anyone know the reaction time of AMS? I'm a spider-5d pilot and I'm trying different things to counter ravens (other then pilot one).

I normally don't run AMS but recently down graded a few things to make room for it. Just curious if the reaction time of the AMS will hit srm. Do I need to be 80m+ or so for it to have a chance, or is basically really only good vs LRM.

I can't notice a huge difference yet as since I've added it I haven't had a 1v1 with a 3L. It mostly goes off shooting down random LRM's as I'm coring some LRM boat.

[blinkin]

AMS rarely kills any streak or standard SRM, even if they are fired from max range.

i have heard your best bet is to make your mech as fast as possible (at least 140kph) and you might be able to out run the missiles sometimes. <-i have never tested it, but it came from a friend who plays lots of light mechs and tends to be very good with them.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Actually it usually cuts down a missile or two, but the thing is, chopping off 2 missiles out of a 24+ SRM barrage doesn't help you much. Vs Streaks you'll often hit one down with AMS, but again, it won't change much. For a Light Mech, I don't really recommend AMS. SRMs and LRMs should miss anyway. You just have to avoid fighting Streak enemies. ECM is also much better investment when you start using the ECM variant.(Rest are trash once they're at 4/4 Elite) With no ECM, a better investment than AMS is 1.5t worth of armor. Max out RT/CT/LT because Streaks hit those the most. Arms are expendable unless you have guns in them, and legs should get enough under cap to not get crippled often.

[MattheusX]

Yea I run ECM, and standard srm's sometimes might hit me if they are good enough, I'm doing 151 speed wise so 90% of the time if I get hit with an LRM it's because some friendlys LRM hit me while i was circling some assault.

This was strictly to go vs 3l's with ssrm2's and they are smart enough to switch to counter mode so they lock on me.

[Davers]

AMS deals 2 damage per second at a range of about 200m. All missiles have 1 hp and move at 100m per second, except Narc that has 2 hp. So, you can chainfire ssrm2s at a mech with ams at 200m and none will hit (I have seen this happen).

[MattheusX]

Thanks for the stats.

[Khobai]

AMS doesnt fire at SRMs I dont think, only Streaks and LRMs. Even if it did fire at SRMs, with a speed of 300, you would only shoot 1 down at most. So it would basically be pointless anyway.

AMS is really only useful on light mechs or mechs that can mount two of them. A single AMS on a slow mech just doesn't do very much.

Edited by Khobai, 11 March 2013 - 04:46 AM.

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Davers, on 10 March 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

AMS deals 2 damage per second at a range of about 200m. All missiles have 1 hp and move at 100m per second, except Narc that has 2 hp. So, you can chainfire ssrm2s at a mech with ams at 200m and none will hit (I have seen this happen).

they actually move at 300m ( http://mwowiki.org/w...ategory:Weapons )

only LRM move at 100m.

so AMS does very little against streaks.

[Davers]

blinkin, on 11 March 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

they actually move at 300m ( http://mwowiki.org/w...ategory:Weapons )

only LRM move at 100m.

so AMS does very little against streaks.

Well, the specific example I was using was firing streaks at a fleeing Jenner. So the streaks had to travel farther than just 200m to hit him, more like 400m due to his movement, thus giving the AMS time to kill them.

But most SRMs are fired at such close ranges that AMS wouldn't have any effect, as you pointed out.

[Vallyn]

I don't believe AMS will hit SRM's - as AMS only should fire at locked missiles, and SRM's are dumb fired.

Additionally, dumb firing LRMs should keep the AMS from firing at them as well and I believe I've seen this when firing LRMs at stationary ECM covered targets.

[blinkin]

Vallyn, on 11 March 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

I don't believe AMS will hit SRM's - as AMS only should fire at locked missiles, and SRM's are dumb fired.

Additionally, dumb firing LRMs should keep the AMS from firing at them as well and I believe I've seen this when firing LRMs at stationary ECM covered targets.

except currently the AMS fires at any missile that is within it's range giving priority to missiles that are locked onto you.