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[Bandaids]

I was wondering about some feed back on You all's Choice in this matter like what would you pick if you had to. The Fafnir is more of a Sniper due to the types of weapons PCC and Giant Gauss cannons. It also has pretty bad over heating you can't Discharge all the weapons at once with out almost shutting down. As where the The Atlas is more of a Juggernaut kind of take a million hits and keep walking, but it also kind of has weak weapon selections for the most part.

[Southern Taxi]

I'd pick Fafnir every day... but you'll have to wait almost 20 years to have it here xD

[Bandaids]

HAHA me too because, a full weapon set discharge will take off any body part in 1 hit. At the risk of shutting down of course

Edited by Bandaids, 13 June 2012 - 04:16 PM.

[TunaR]

Fafnir all the way. First time I saw that thing in MW4 I almost cried. Even if they aren't planning on releasing it (which they should!), I would love to see what our Piranha team would do with the design of it!

[Kittygrinder]

Fafnir every day of the week.

[Skadi]

[Lt muffins]

Well double heavy Gauss is a very advantageous weapon, but aren't they only forward firing.
If the atlas can circle strafe the Fafnir it would be a easy victory for the Atlas.

Did some reading on Atlas variants and I found this.

AS7-S2 - The S2 Atlas was a major upgrade of the design by the Lyran Alliance. The 'Mech was built with a Light Fusion Engine and carried as its primary long range weapons an Artemis IV Fire Control System enhanced LRM-15 launcher and two ER Large Lasers. For close combat, the 'Mech was armed with a Heavy Gauss Rifle and to protect against enemy electronic warfare equipment the 'Mech mounted a Guardian ECM Suite. BV (1.0) = 2,147^[21], BV (2.0) = 2,389

Edited by Lt muffins, 13 June 2012 - 04:34 PM.

[Serpentine]

I prefer that walking double Hyper-Gauss machine over an Atlas.

The Fafnir can puncture it like a bullet to a tin can.

[phinja]

Fafnir makes an Atlas cry

Lt muffins, on 13 June 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

Well double heavy Gauss is a very advantageous weapon, but aren't they only forward firing.
If the atlas can circle strafe the Fafnir it would be a easy victory for the Atlas.

That's assuming the pilot of the fafnir didn't know how to torso twist to follow the Atlas's apparent super speed.

[Ian]

Sure as long as its MW4, where the HG had none of its drawbacks. If Piranha does it correctly you have a chance of falling over every time you pull the trigger one even one HG, then their damage also drops off over distance. It also does not have PPCs, not sure where someone got that.

[Lt muffins]

Ian, on 13 June 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

Sure as long as its MW4, where the HG had none of its drawbacks. If Piranha does it correctly you have a chance of falling over every time you pull the trigger one even one HG, then their damage also drops off over distance. It also does not have PPCs, not sure where someone got that.

The arms can easily mount PPC's

also info on the heavy Gauss.

While the Heavy Gauss Rifle is extremely powerful, it also suffers from a number of setbacks. The heavy projectile fired by the rifle experiences a significant loss of velocity, so it is weaker at greater distances. At medium range, the damage output is slightly reduced. Once at long range, the velocity loss becomes far more dramatic, with this reduced damage being halved. The same projectile weight that causes such a slowdown also makes it necessary to allocate extra space to ammunition. This, combined with the bulk of the rifle itself, can lead to problems. The massive capacitors necessary for the coils that power the rifle are also not particularly inert, and will undergo a catastrophic explosion if exposed to weapons fire. (This can be contained with CASE, however.)

Edit: this cant be right Sarna say that this weapon get 4 shots per ton of ammo.

Edited by Lt muffins, 13 June 2012 - 04:47 PM.

[IIIuminaughty]

Annahilator vs Atlas is best match up for an atlas!

[badkoala]

Coming from someone who only ever played the video games as a kid, still gonna have to go with the Fafnir. I just like it better as a mech.

[Bandaids]

Lt muffins, on 13 June 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

Well double heavy Gauss is a very advantageous weapon, but aren't they only forward firing.
If the atlas can circle strafe the Fafnir it would be a easy victory for the Atlas.

Did some reading on Atlas variants and I found this.

AS7-S2 - The S2 Atlas was a major upgrade of the design by the Lyran Alliance. The 'Mech was built with a Light Fusion Engine and carried as its primary long range weapons an Artemis IV Fire Control System enhanced LRM-15 launcher and two ER Large Lasers. For close combat, the 'Mech was armed with a Heavy Gauss Rifle and to protect against enemy electronic warfare equipment the 'Mech mounted a Guardian ECM Suite. BV (1.0) = 2,147^[21], BV (2.0) = 2,389

That 's a valid point but the fafnir COULD potentially kill it before it even gets close, a Raven could be it's worst enemy due to the flame thrower and unrivaled speed

Edited by Bandaids, 13 June 2012 - 05:05 PM.

[MechRaccoon]

Bandaids, on 13 June 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

The Fafnir is more of a Sniper due to the types of weapons PCC and Giant Gauss cannons.

OH YEAH!?!? ATLAS-K CAN SNIPE TOO!

2 ER LARGE LASERS!

1 GAUSS RIFLE!

1 LRM20!

2 MEDIUM PULSE LASERS!

EDIT: Also, Atlas S2.

1 Heavy Gauss

1 LRM 15

2 ER large lasers
See? Atlas can snipe!

Edited by MechRaccoon, 13 June 2012 - 05:49 PM.

[Kyle Hawkins]

I've never been much of an Atlas fan spare respecting the kind of iconic status it carries, so I'm going for the Fafnir. It has a kind of lethal simplicity to it. Though...

Lt muffins, on 13 June 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Edit: this cant be right Sarna say that this weapon get 4 shots per ton of ammo.

A 250 kilo solid coilgun slug? So this thing puts out half a ton of ammo at speeds around Mach 7 with each full salvo? Ouch...

[Goldhawk]

The Fafnir looks like a brick. I'm sorry, I didn't become a mech pilot to pilot a giant walking building. I'd give it to the Atlas. Or..... I'd give it to the Devastator!!! Yeeeaaa!

[Ian]

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The arms can easily mount PPC's

Well if neither is stock then its an irrelevant discussion because they both have whatever you want.

[Warskull]

Lt muffins, on 13 June 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Edit: this cant be right Sarna say that this weapon get 4 shots per ton of ammo.

Most large caliber ballistic weapons get very few shots per ton. AC/20 only gets 5 shots per ton. In tabletop 20+ damage to a single location is quite a bit. That's enough to 1-shot most light mechs with a center torso shot and many medium mechs. An atlas only has 47 CT points and 31 CT internals. At 25 a hit that's nearly 1/3 of an Atlas's CT.

The thing is, in tabletop you can't simply aim at the center torso and land every hit. So most mechwarrior games tone down the lethality by either multiplying the armor points or reducing weapon damage. MW4 added a damage wall that blocks some damage and prevents 1-shots. As a result most mechwarrior games have to also increase the ammo per ton to compensate for the increased armor.

[Southern Taxi]

Lt muffins, on 13 June 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

Well double heavy Gauss is a very advantageous weapon, but aren't they only forward firing.
If the atlas can circle strafe the Fafnir it would be a easy victory for the Atlas.

Did some reading on Atlas variants and I found this.

AS7-S2 - The S2 Atlas was a major upgrade of the design by the Lyran Alliance. The 'Mech was built with a Light Fusion Engine and carried as its primary long range weapons an Artemis IV Fire Control System enhanced LRM-15 launcher and two ER Large Lasers. For close combat, the 'Mech was armed with a Heavy Gauss Rifle and to protect against enemy electronic warfare equipment the 'Mech mounted a Guardian ECM Suite. BV (1.0) = 2,147^[21], BV (2.0) = 2,389

Wait, wait... Atlas can circle strafe something that isn't a building? O.O