26 replies to this topic

[El Bandito]

Purchased 3 variants of the Phract thanks to the bonus weekend. However, I know my Elo/KDR/WL ratio will plummet since I have no idea how to play them without any upgrades. I slapped on Quad AC2, 2 Mlas + DHS on the 4X and it is doing well dakkaing.
However, I have no idea on how to start with the 1X and the 3D, so I need you guys to help me with starter builds (no DHS, no Endo) that is viable--so I won't suck. I have good idea on their end builds so that's not necessary.


Cheers.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 February 2013 - 09:48 PM.

[darthblade]

ctf-3d - gauss (4t ammo) + erppc + 2 large lasers - (300xl engine) + endo steel + double hs - great sniper build

Edited by darthblade, 26 February 2013 - 09:40 PM.

[El Bandito]

darthblade, on 26 February 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

ctf-3d - gauss (4t ammo) + erppc + 2 large lasers - (300xl engine) + endo steel + double hs - great sniper build

Starter builds. Got no money for DHS and endo.


Thanks.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 February 2013 - 09:55 PM.

[SpiralRazor]

Mm...then theres not much to do with the 3D except MLs or LLs, UAC/5 and just grinding money. Or you could grind on LRMs..i think it has two racks.

[El Bandito]

SpiralRazor, on 26 February 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Mm...then theres not much to do with the 3D except MLs or LLs, UAC/5 and just grinding money. Or you could grind on LRMs..i think it has two racks.

3D and 1X have no missile slots. You confused them with 2X, good sir.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 February 2013 - 10:06 PM.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I've dabbled with several 1X builds, but my current one is Gauss (CASEd, with 4 tons), 3 MPL, 13 DHS, 275 Standard engine, AMS (1 ton), Endo Steel, and 416 armor (a bit shaved off each leg). It's fast enough to be a decent cavalry mech, with a bit of long range punch and plenty of up close defenses. All the MPL are in the arms, so it works nicely against enemy lights who get too friendly.

I've also tried LL and PPC boat builds, plus an AC20/ML setup, but I'm sticking with the Gauss/MPL build for now.

If you can't afford DHS for now, then play a half dozen matches in a profitable mech and get 1.5 million cbills. Endo is maybe three or four matches (600k or thereabouts). A relatively easy afternoon or evening of matches.

If you really want to start using the 1X immediately, then perhaps try a Gauss (low heat high tonnage) with standard mediums in the arms and plenty of extra heat sinks (maybe a smaller engine to free up tonnage for more HS).

Edited by Levi Porphyrogenitus, 26 February 2013 - 10:06 PM.

[El Bandito]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 26 February 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

I've dabbled with several 1X builds, but my current one is Gauss (CASEd, with 4 tons), 3 MPL, 13 DHS, 275 Standard engine, AMS (1 ton), Endo Steel, and 416 armor (a bit shaved off each leg). It's fast enough to be a decent cavalry mech, with a bit of long range punch and plenty of up close defenses. I've also tried LL and PPC boat builds, plus an AC20/ML setup, but I'm sticking with the Gauss/MPL build for now.

Need to grind for the DHS and Endo so any pre-DHS/Endo builds?

[Elizander]

Cheapest way to go with the 1X without upgrading anything I guess - 1X cheaplaserboat (sorry got the engine wrong) 1X cheaperlaserboat (fixed)
2LL, 2ML, 27 SHS

Edited by Elizander, 26 February 2013 - 10:23 PM.

[Josef Nader]

When in doubt, AC20:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...df2c0e36d2a9f65

The 3D benefits from a more ranged-oriented build:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ac3e1eb94517235

Neither mech will be -good- till you get the toys in it, but these'll get you started.

Edited by Josef Nader, 26 February 2013 - 10:15 PM.

[xRatas]

2 gauss, jump jets on 3D, slap what ever you can fit after that and jump snipe. Or replace 1 gauss with PPC or two, if 2 gauss is bit too hard to put in. Some extra heat is not that bad if you jumpsnipe wisely.

Edited by xRatas, 26 February 2013 - 10:20 PM.

[Spheroid]

I suppose you could run twin LBX-10 as a bodyguard unit. Do you have an extra you could pull off another mech?

Delete CASE, remove Ultra-5 and a laser and you should have enough mass. Or remove jumpjets its not like you have to use them.

Edited by Spheroid, 26 February 2013 - 10:26 PM.

[SpiralRazor]

xRatas, on 26 February 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

2 gauss, jump jets on 3D, slap what ever you can fit after that and jump snipe. Or replace 1 gauss with PPC or two, if 2 gauss is bit too hard to put in. Some extra heat is not that bad if you jumpsnipe wisely.

So gauss and PPCs are magically cheap now? No, stick with medium and large lasers, or a cheap AC/5.

[Erasus Magnus]

El Bandito, on 26 February 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Purchased 3 variants of the Phract thanks to the bonus weekend. However, I know my Elo/KDR/WL ratio will plummet since I have no idea how to play them without any upgrades. I slapped on Quad AC2, 2 Mlas + DHS on the 4X and it is doing well dakkaing.
However, I have no idea on how to start with the 1X and the 3D, so I need you guys to help me with starter builds (no DHS, no Endo) that is viable--so I won't suck. I have good idea on their end builds so that's not necessary.


Cheers.

2 of my 4 man buddies pilot 1xses and they absolutely **** with these. they call them "Todesstern", or "Death Star", because of its laser array and ac 20 aka planet destroyer.

it looks roughly like this:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...19ec8408d9c28cf

stock engine , so you do not have to buy a new engine.
its decently fast, affordable and they kill things pretty fast.
only drawback is its short range profile but you can start from here and customize to your likings.

Edited by Erasus Magnus, 26 February 2013 - 10:34 PM.

[Monkey Bone]

The Quad AC2 sounds healthy if you don't have endosteel and stuff.

Try ac20 + 5 medium lasers with std300 on the 1x, ac20 + 4medium lasers with std300 and jumpjets on the 3D if you're not going to get endosteel.

[Erasus Magnus]

Jules Gonzales, on 26 February 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

The Quad AC2 sounds healthy if you don't have endosteel and stuff.

Try ac20 + 5 medium lasers with std300 on the 1x, ac20 + 4medium lasers with std300 and jumpjets on the 3D if you're not going to get endosteel.

i like your music.

[IceCase88]

3D - 2 ER PPCs, 2 AC2s, 2 MLs, endo, DHS. Gotta watch the heat but it hits hard at all ranges. I only use the MLs on lights unless an emergency arises. I pound everything with the ER PPCs.

I have nothing for the 1X since I have elited my Ilya, 3D, and 4X.

[Xinaoen]

It'd be a tight squeeze without Endo, but you could cram both an AC/20 and a Gauss onto the 3D.

[El Bandito]

Ok, I think I got the essence of poptarting in 3D. Dual ERPPC and Gauss with default engine. Got DHS as soon as I could afford it after grinding like mad.



Still need to get a hang of 1X. What do you think is a good front and rear armor ratio for a brawler 1X?

Edited by El Bandito, 27 February 2013 - 04:44 AM.

[MustrumRidcully]

El Bandito, on 26 February 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Starter builds. Got no money for DHS and endo.


Thanks.

If you can't afford DHS and Endo... You may still be able to equip 2 Gauss Rifles. If that's to expensive, maybe 2 AC/10 and. Don't go to heavy on energy weapons without DHS, no more than 1 PPC, 1 Large Laser or 2-3 Medium Lasers.

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 27 February 2013 - 04:40 AM.

[Monkey Bone]

El Bandito, on 27 February 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

-snip-
Still need to get a hang of 1X. What do you think is a good front and rear armor ratio for a brawler 1X?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...512424cb6211af5

EDIT; Idea what you should be aiming for if you want a brawl 1x.

Edited by Jules Gonzales, 27 February 2013 - 04:55 AM.