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[Disapirro]

The only frustration I ever have while piloting this is the 3L and 2D with streaks. Utterly useless against those two mechs with the speed cap as is. Unless it is obvious the pilot is incompentent, I always try to avoid getting cornered by those two. Other than that no problems mate.

Edited by Disapirro, 12 March 2013 - 04:48 AM.

[Yokaiko]

Jimmy Page, on 12 March 2013 - 02:39 AM, said:

Want a true challenge? Try leveling the Spiders. Holy cow! It's painful. Daunting. Stressful. Heartbreaking. Exciting. Frustrating. Joyous. Cringe worthy. Patience trying. Like parenting schizophrenic child as a paraplegic.

You are nuts, the Spider is the only chassis I don't own.

...mainly becuase running around trying not to die doesn't ound like a lot of fun

[Esplodin]

Yokaiko, on 12 March 2013 - 04:58 AM, said:

...mainly becuase running around trying not to die doesn't ound like a lot of fun

You just have to turn the engagement to be on your terms/terrain. Did a base (NOT CAP) rush with two spiders and a jenner last night right off the start - full throttle baby! Hit em before they were set up and caused hellachaos until the rest of the shufflers got there and found nothing but disorientated and damaged mechs that were ripe for surprise huttsex. Just pilot like you are a squirrel on speed+cokaine*+meth high test and you'll do well!

*Cokaine filtered? Really?

Edited by Esplodin, 12 March 2013 - 05:20 AM.

[Disapirro]

Esplodin, on 12 March 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

You just have to turn the engagement to be on your terms/terrain. Did a base (NOT CAP) rush with two spiders and a jenner last night right off the start - full throttle baby! Hit em before they were set up and caused hellachaos until the rest of the shufflers got there and found nothing but disorientated and damaged mechs that were ripe for surprise huttsex. Just pilot like you are a squirrel on speed+cokaine*+meth high test and you'll do well!

*Cokaine filtered? Really?

Exactly what this guy said. Run and gun, turn and jump, seek cover, double back, get behind, faux cap, call out weaknesses, rinse and repeat. Always, always resist the urge to stop and line up a shot.

[Bishop Steiner]

Net.

REAL men level urbanmechs. Or their spider analogs.

[Yokaiko]

Esplodin, on 12 March 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

Just pilot like you are a squirrel on speed+cokaine*+meth high test and you'll do well!

*Cokaine filtered? Really?

I have ravens and jenners for that....and they can actually shoot back and hurt something.

[Jimmy Page]

They do a great job of causing disruptions and people tend to chase them around allowing your team better shots.

[Esplodin]

Yokaiko, on 12 March 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

I have ravens and jenners for that....and they can actually shoot back and hurt something.

I won't pilot ravens until they fix the hitbox issue (or there is a tournament on and I have to fight the epeen cheese suicide brawlers), and I just can't get into a jenner. The cockpit glass is just awful and my situational awareness goes into the toilet. I feel claustrophobic the whole match in one. Even though I do more raw damage, I am FAR less useful to the team as a whole. <shrugs>

[Throbbinwood]

I killed a spider with srm volley and no target lead, true story. Latest netcode tweaks ftw.

[SI The Joker]

I love Spiders.

Ran all 3 Spiders through the elite tree before spending 6 bucks on the "cheap xp exchange" weekend to grab the final master slot on all of them in one fell swoop.

[Chavette]

FromHell2k, on 12 March 2013 - 04:39 AM, said:

Atlas got SplatCatted from behind. No chance to do something.

You mean he was so out of position due to his exceptionally poor situational awareness, that a Heavy mech sneaked behind him?
And far enuff from his team that no one could radar the Cat in or scare it away?

I almost pity him, but not because he died.

Edited by Chavette, 12 March 2013 - 06:37 AM.

[Stargoat]

I got my spider 5D to master, with much pain. It's the only light i own, so had to go through elite with the 5K and 5V.

The 5D a solid 'mech though. I find what i like most about it, compared to the other spider variants, is the arm-mounted and extra energy hard point. The ECM is nice, though. Hopefully they buff machine guns so the 5k is a bit more useful some day.

[GRIMM11]

And I thought I was a man for leveling a hunchback.. now that was grueling.

[FromHell2k]

Just found that > Perfectly shows how you feel leveling it..



Spider worth it anyway!

[icey]

spider 5D/5K are great fun, especially now that lasers are fixed and MGs can kill exposed weapons and items.

the 5V is a bit lacking - its just a bad 5D, you dont even really have enough crits to make use of all the JJ.

its a shame the game's dedicated scout mech can't actually scout for fear of running into an enemy with streaks. spiders will be _awesome_ when the speed cap is fixed.

[Terror Teddy]

Dead Eye 01, on 12 March 2013 - 03:10 AM, said:

AC/10, Small Laser... all you need.

Stock design is the right way to level - and to gather data about crapphy mg's

[Mister Blastman]

Carrioncrows, on 12 March 2013 - 03:15 AM, said:

<-------This GUY

The 5D doesn't count. That's the only good one.

[Stoicblitzer]

well from the screenshots Spiders can be decent when there isn't a 3L or 2D on the other team. Otherwise the spider is a waste of space. It's like streakcats now. If the other team has <=1 ECM then you can still rock people. Too risky. After ECM gets changed, I may level the spiders but i'd rather not risk handicapping my team.

GRIMM11, on 12 March 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

And I thought I was a man for leveling a hunchback.. now that was grueling.

I thought that was fun.

[Grumbling Coot]

icey, on 12 March 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

spider 5D/5V are great fun.

the 5K is a bit lacking - its just a bad 5V.

Fixed that for you.

I love the 5V. 2MPLs are enough to do plenty of damage if you know how and those 12 JJs are just pure fun to use.

I've never quite found a satisfying 5D build though...I either have to sacrifice jumpjets, or go with a depressingly low amount of firepower. If you take out the JJs for an AC, you lose ton's of survivability against other lights. Using machine guns and max JJ's gives you some survivability, but you can't do much damage.

[Esplodin]

Grumbling Coot, on 12 March 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:

I've never quite found a satisfying 5D build though...I either have to sacrifice jumpjets, or go with a depressingly low amount of firepower.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9219db1785abf15

Max everything and only sacrificing 1 JJ, with sustained DPS of a hair over 2 and 17 alpha. I switch out the med laser in the torso for tag if I'm with my lrm buddy, or flamer if I feel trollish. Gotta be close to do your papercuts, so it is not for everyone.