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[Particle Storm]

First of all, let me say I absolutely LOVE the new detailed statistics introduced in the last patch.

But now that I have played a few matches with different mechs and loadouts, and the lists are getting longer, I was trying to figure out how they were organized.

Well, it's simple, they are NOT.

Please look at the linked screenshots (or your own stats page for more meaningful numbers).

Lets start with Weapons.


Are they ordered by :
Name? : No
Type? : No
Matches : No
Shots fired : No
Hits, Accuracy, Time equipped or Damage? : No, No, No and NO!
Order I chose to use them first since the patch?? : Not even that.

What kind of a mess is that? How am I supposed to find the data I want?
The only good thing right now is that the order does not change, new insertions notwithstanding. So I can find things using spatial memory. Thats a rather weak way to present tabular information though

And its the same thing for Mechs.


At least variants seem grouped (might be accidental in my case, please confirm if you run several variants of some chassis).
But how about sorting by name? Or weight class? Or anything else?

[ragingmunkyz]

On the weapons...yeah that page doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason to it. I agree it would be nice if they did something like grouping similar weapons together, so you could get a better sense of how you're doing with that type at a glance. Would be even better if they gave you a breakdown your numbers across each weapons group (e.g lasers, lrms).

In my case, the variants are grouped, but that is likely because I always buy 3 variants of a chassis at once. All that said, the detailed stats are still very new, I wouldn't be surprised if those pages get cleaned up a lot over the next couple of patches.

Edited by ragingmunkyz, 13 March 2013 - 02:23 PM.

[scruffy416]

Variants aren't grouped - I have Hunchback's in my listing, 1 at the top, and one mid-way.

[F lan Ker]

S!

The stats could be grouped better and separated to energy and ballistic weapons for example. And in an order too, not just mashed around like in the current presentation. Cleaner and easier to read layout, please.

[stjobe]

Better yet, make the lists sortable on whatever column we choose to click on.

[MoonUnitBeta]

At the very least they need to be sorted by type. After that, whether or not it's alphabetical, by the damage type, weight, or by highest accuracy by default. doesn't matter. But I actually don't care lol. It not something I'm going to be referencing that often to have to sort through pages and pages of information or anything like that. If I'm curious about a weapon, I can look it up.
Alphabetical won't be able to sort things like this:
Small Pulse Laser
Medium Pulse Laser
Large Pulse Laser

Small Laser
Medium Laser
Large Laser
ER Large Laser

Nor will sorting by weight keep it organized. You'll end up with a Tag in the middle of that some where.
Sort by Slots? That might be even worse.

So, in the end, they're going to have to make their own hand crafted list, which will be default.
Everything is grouped nicely, together, sorted by weight, type, etc etc. as you would suspect.
Click the corresponding tab to sort by Ascending/Descending for accuracy, time used, damage, anything you want. Put in a button that says "Reorganize" to revert back to default.

Slap in a check box that says "Group by Type". With it checked, everything is broken into groups (energy, etc) with the highest accurancy of that group at the top of the group. If you uncheck it, everything is grouped together and sorted as one list.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 13 March 2013 - 02:20 PM.

[ragingmunkyz]

stjobe, on 13 March 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Better yet, make the lists sortable on whatever column we choose to click on.

+1 for sortable lists. Really anything they can do to make it easier for us to get the desired information would be nice. I can dig through the lists and work out whatever averages I'd like, but it seems like its not too much more effort just to make things a bit more organized and user-friendly.

[RavensScar]

Can I suggest that in the mean time, when looking for certain data, CTRL + F might be your friend?

To be honest, there are quite a few things I'd like to see implemented above sort-able lists!

[Jonathan Paine]

As a band-aid, I suggest pasting the numbers into a spreadsheet and using those sorting tools.

[Particle Storm]

Just wanted to add that I can find the information I need just fine using spatial memory as mentionned in the post. The lists are not so long as to require a spreadsheet or even sortable columns.

I was just wondering what kind of thought process would bring a developer to present tabular data in a completely random way. I'm still amazed by that in fact.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

Hi,

Firstly.. I like your stats! Second: I to am a picky being and know others like us exist.. we want organized(able) stats and we also want organized(able) mech bays!

Good news.. that's probably on the way. The accuracy rating on the AC/20 vs. the SSRM2... lol, me to. Just proves it's psychological damage ontop of missile tracking, I mean yeah you best run through the hills to avoid them but still, they're just small damage over long time, nothing more they hardly touch heavy armor compared to other weapons. That can be a good thing on a raven 2 small lasers and 1 medium out does the damage of a raven w/ 3 mediums in super heated chase mode.