10 replies to this topic

[Fallenbourne]

So today while playing I died a few time by engine destruction due to ammo explosion. This happened on my DRG-Flame running an XL350 with a gauss rifle in the left torso ballistic slot and my ammo is stored in my legs. First few times I wondered what was up then released that the gauss ammo doesn't explode it's the rifle itself that does. But the last time it happened the gauss rifle was destroyed at least a minute prior to my death and I still got death by ammo explosion from the destroyed gauss rifle.

I understand that the initial destruction of the gauss rifle should be able to cause a "ammo explosion" but it causing one after it's been destroyed doesn't seem correct.

Is this a bug or should this be happening?

[Sedant]

Getting sick of this myself, why the hell are solid slugs of metal (gauss ammunition) exploding. I could only assume that they are made of magnesium and got wet..... Really thats all i got..... I want this fixed too because its not supposed to be happening!!!

[joedawg39s]

Its the gauss rifle exploding, it just gets listed as an ammo explosion. Sometimes it takes a few seconds. It also will not always outright kill you, just do a ton of damage to your side torso and If you have missiles they could also be exploding.

[ArmageddonKnight]

I honestly dont think the Guass rifle should explode anyway. It makes no sense. its effectivly a railgun. the Slugs are accelerated via a elctro magnetic charge. nothing about the rifle itself should explode.

The Guass Rifle itself is incredible fragile and usless in a brawl ..unfortunatly nearly all battles end up in a brawl anyway.

Ether increase the Guass rifles health back up, or remove destruction damage or at leats reduce it. its currently a very high risk low reward weapon.

[Sedant]

Not the rifle getting hit, I had ammo in a leg get critted and i 'exploded', why the hell is is a ton of solid metal expliding, pretty lame in my books.

[Fallenbourne]

I understand that it is the gauss rifle exploding and since gauss ammo are just metal slugs they don't explode. It is the capactors that build up charge to fling the slug are what explodes. I am not complaining about that, thats the way it was in TT and glad its the same here.

My issue is the rifle is already destroyed yet it gets hit again and then explodes?!? I thought that if a item was destroyed then the crit "rolls" skip that slot/s and move onto something else.

Now if it's just a bug saying I was killed by ammo explosion from the gauss after the gauss was already destroyed, was in reality just the opponent critting my XL engine is fine. I just wanted to let the devs know this is either a big issue or just a improper text being shown.

[joedawg39s]

I'm under the impression it would explode once, do you guys have any other ammo (AMS, missiles) that could also be exploding. You also currently don't die when your engine gets critted, only when the CT (also LT and RT for XL engines) gets fully destroyed. This guide is very good.

side note, gauss should blow up when destroyed, kind of sort of physics would say that to do 15 points of damage the capacitors would need to store more than 15 points of damage worth of energy to fire the thing.

[Fallenbourne]

Nope don't carry any of my ammo in either of the torsos. This is why I posted here in the bug forum to see if its an actual ammo explosion bug or just my XL engine actually getting destroyed by enemy fire and the "Killed by: " display is showing incorrect.

[joedawg39s]

Well then I would go with the game giving you the wrong cause of death.

[Deacon412]

capacitors dont actually explode like that any way and for them to explode you have to wire them wrong. and then thats ONLY when they have a full charge in them. it doesent just happen randomly if theyre destoryed LOL and i imagine they would only have a charge a moment before and during use.

[Valdemaar]

ArmageddonKnight, on 13 March 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

I honestly dont think the Guass rifle should explode anyway. It makes no sense. its effectivly a railgun. the Slugs are accelerated via a elctro magnetic charge. nothing about the rifle itself should explode.

Well, gauss rifle implies it to be a coil gun rather than rail gun but that's just semantics. Either way both would rely on massive capacitor banks to provide the necessary electrical pulse to generate the magnetic field. Rationalizing it so that 1) the capacitors always carry a charge and 2) the weapon getting destroyed carries some sort of power surge then an exploding capacitor of the size to make a Gauss Rifle operate would certainly be damaging.

Unrelated, if you were wanting to get technical about how the Gauss Rifle should operate prototype rail guns have a muzzle flash due to the projectile moving so fast that the friction of it moving through the air ignites the oxygen. Isn't science awesome?