24 replies to this topic

[BloodMadjai]

Incorporate this into the game so the bots that are destroying it are no longer effective. There seems to be a lot of denial by the "staff" but its out there and its effecting game play to a greater degree than this company wants to admit. You are going to lose a lot of solid players because of the "punks" that seem to need help playing and cant do it themselves. Thank you.

[FrostCollar]

What bots are destroying the game?

[DegeneratePervert]

Yeah... can you provide proof that there are bots within the game? I haven't noticed any.

[Volthorne]

One word: No.

Regardless of what hacks are or are not present, nothing is worth implementing PB due to A. it being a resource hog and B. it being garbage.

[SgtKinCaiD]

I don't have fond memories of PB from when i was playing BF.

[Pihb]

Punk Buster sucks. That being said, it is near impossible to have proof if someone is using an aim bot. That being said, I am sure, when you head shot someone, a little red flag shows up. Too many head shots, they look into you. OP you are freaking out. Calm down.

[focuspark]

OK so
BloodMadjai works for PunkBuster ... we know that now because no gamer who has experienced it's craptasticness would ask for it.

[Genewen]

The use of this program or a similar one would mean instant deinstallation of MWO for me. I have not, do not, and will never accept that a game scans my PC. I don't cheat in multiplayer games, I just don't accept this. Especially given the total uselessness of the program.

Btw I also never noticed problems with hacks/bots in MWO.

[DeadlyNerd]

Interesting, if everyone is so much against PB, with the knowledge of how PGI handles community suggestions, why are you expressing your opinions to this so strongly?

One would suspect that everyone who replied strongly actually IS using a 3rd party aiming aid.
I'm not accusing, I'm just sayin.

[I l]

Punkbuster has a lot of false positives (i know this because i make sure my hacks are undetected) and can give crazy lag (as happened in apb when it got implemented). Their customer support is also terrible if you are wrongly banned because they refuse to give any information as to why you got banned.

Edited by I l, 13 March 2013 - 03:15 PM.

[Victor Morson]

ONE WORD

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

PunkBuster is the worst piece of crap to ever grace the internet. It barely functions at it's job, existing mostly as a placebo to make idiots feel better, than publishers mandate developers use for the sole purpose of, again, making people feel better. It randomly kicks people that have done nothing wrong all the time, which results in people thinking it works.

It does not work. It never has worked. It just makes tons of noise and is obnoxious as hell, but accomplishes NOTHING in the long run.

The only good anti-pirate out there is VAC. It lets you cheat. It lets you cheat for a little bit. Then when it's confirmed you are in fact cheating, your account bites the dust. That's how you deal with cheaters, not just randomly throwing off the server because it's in a bad mood.

Let me be clear, I've known many devs and all of them have hated PunkBuster. It's a terrible system that's basically the longest running and most amusing.. well, I won't go as far to say "scam" since it does legitimately try, it just makes a lot of noise to cover it's own incompetence.

[Theevenger]

I have played nearly five hundred matches and I have never suspected that another player was really an AI bot. What evidence do you have of bots riddling our experience?

[FrostCollar]

DeadlyNerd, on 13 March 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

Interesting, if everyone is so much against PB, with the knowledge of how PGI handles community suggestions, why are you expressing your opinions to this so strongly?

One would suspect that everyone who replied strongly actually IS using a 3rd party aiming aid.
I'm not accusing, I'm just sayin.

You're insinuating, and I'm not sure I understand your argument. A stroll down the suggestions forums reveals that people have very strong opinions that they like to express on this forums or, dare I say, any forum. Though PGI doesn't draw much from community suggestions, that doesn't mean that a bad idea gets a pass.

I've played a few different games with punkbuster implemented. Did it stop cheating? No. Did it reduce my fun? Yes, having inconsistent versions of punkbuster and other technical issues ended many a match for me. Therefore, I have to join the consensus and say no to this suggestion.

[Sable Dove]

focuspark, on 13 March 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

OK so
BloodMadjai works for PunkBuster ... we know that now because no gamer who has experienced it's craptasticness would ask for it.

This sounds about right.

[Egomane]

Punkbuster only provides a false sense of security.

It is so widely knwon, that it is easily accessible for the dark side. They can find ways to prevent punkbuster from sounding an alert, until PB releases an update. This will then again quickly be adapted to make the bot working again. It is a death cycle that PB is currently losing.

The only thing PB can ever hope to stop, is script-kiddies. Those usually have no chance of successfully manipulating a server authorized game, like MWO.

[Tabrias07]

PB is awful.

VAC would be nice, but would probably ban everyone using the no-film-grain fix or people who deleted river city.

[Mazgazine1]

PB is crap and it only causes problems . If it was so good, why does BF3 have plenty of hackers? Have you seen the crap that cheaters pull even with PB in place? Its pretty nuts.

This game seems to be VERY hard to cheat with so far.

[blinkin]

NO

punkbuster may have been good in the past, but in battlefield 3 all it did was kick me repeatedly every time there was a patch and nothing ever seemed to happen to all of the players running all of the different flavors of aim bots. <- to simplify: legit players get kicked and hackers go on their merry way.

so a very sincere F*** NO!!

1,266 matches since open beta began. number of suspected hackers encountered 0.00.

Edited by blinkin, 15 March 2013 - 10:36 AM.

[Donas]

I l, on 13 March 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

(i know this because i make sure my hacks are undetected)

Thats a joke, right?

[Roland]

99% of the time when you think someone is cheating, they are just that much better than you.