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#1 Reptilizer

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:44 AM

...please try to understand what i am telling you.

This answer from #35 ask the devs:
"M0rpHeu5: Do you check the suggestions and the game balance topics?
A: Regularly. We tend to look for trends, rather than specific suggestions. When we see many threads about something being too powerful, we examine the root causes and implement a fix or tweak."

is an open invitation to manipulation of in-game values by forum spamming. Everybody with time on hands and the ability to form proper sentences can be a forum warrior and there are some entities with numerous members out there that take great delight in such ventures for the sake of lulz.
To make it short: Stating that in game values will be tweaked according to the whine on forums is not a smart idea and should probably substituted by a comment that combines Forum whine with some rock hard in game metrics. Right? Right???

#2 Vassago Rain

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:45 AM

Their process is bad, and the playerbase want gimped weapons to be viable.

Nothing harmful in this.

#3 Alex Corkum

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:47 AM

Something about exploiting the forums? I dunno.

#4 Krazyjim

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:47 AM

Nope, they have people that monitor threads, therefor they know if they are troll threads or not. however if there was an organised group that would circlejerk in the made threads, then maybe it could be exploited.

#5 jeffsw6

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:49 AM

Are you saying 4chan is going to show up and post 1000 threads demanding that Small Pulse Laser be nerfed because it is universally-feared?

This MG incident taught us two important things. First, the devs really are burned out or clueless; or that "MGs are fine" crap would never have been said. Second, the community staff / moderators are either not doing a good job, or the folks on the receiving end at PGI aren't listening to them.

Let's hope that PGI learns lessons from this as well.

#6 Kiiyor

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:49 AM

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The legions of the fallen had valid arguments also. I fear we are all doooomed.

#7 Alex Corkum

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:50 AM

View PostKiiyor, on 09 April 2013 - 04:49 AM, said:

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The legions of the fallen had valid arguments also. I fear we are all doooomed.

Charge your phone man.

#8 Kiiyor

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:52 AM

I'm at 2%. That's good for around 2 more mg thread locks methinks!

#9 Purplefluffybunny

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:54 AM

View PostReptilizer, on 09 April 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

...please try to understand what i am telling you.

This answer from #35 ask the devs:
"M0rpHeu5: Do you check the suggestions and the game balance topics?
A: Regularly. We tend to look for trends, rather than specific suggestions. When we see many threads about something being too powerful, we examine the root causes and implement a fix or tweak."


What happens if the majority is wrong? A tyranny of the majority! More seriously, if it is used to target a possible problem then I can see how such a strategy is useful.

However, the cynical would say it is a strategy of 'appeasement' to keep the paying customers happy. Such a logic would see dev attention more focused on paying customers' concerns.

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 09 April 2013 - 04:56 AM.


#10 RG Notch

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:57 AM

Yeah it's real tough to figure out when the same people or their alts keep creating these topics that they just represent those people and don't constitute a trend. But keep posting and I'm sure if you handful post enough they will suddenly change their plans. Or not. Some people really need other hobbies.

#11 Reptilizer

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:57 AM

View Postjeffsw6, on 09 April 2013 - 04:49 AM, said:

Are you saying 4chan is going to show up and post 1000 threads demanding that Small Pulse Laser be nerfed because it is universally-feared?
...


Well, the goons are already here and this sounds like a fun idea paired with the very valid argument of the deadliness of small pulse lasers...
So what is house Liao waiting for?

#12 Psikez

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:00 AM

View PostReptilizer, on 09 April 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

Well, the goons are already here and this sounds like a fun idea paired with the very valid argument of the deadliness of small pulse lasers...
So what is house Liao waiting for?


Waiting in K-Town for your threads :)

#13 Belorion

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:04 AM

I am not sure what the point of this thread is. :)

#14 Tennex

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:07 AM

Keep that sreen shot around lol

Im saving it to put in every post regardless of MG or not. Until they buff it

Edited by Tennex, 09 April 2013 - 05:09 AM.


#15 Xelah

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:09 AM

View PostRG Notch, on 09 April 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

Yeah it's real tough to figure out when the same people or their alts keep creating these topics that they just represent those people and don't constitute a trend. But keep posting and I'm sure if you handful post enough they will suddenly change their plans. Or not. Some people really need other hobbies.


Speaking of people that need other hobbies.... why don't you go play Bloons TD 5 or something?

Some of us would actually like our ballistic lights to be viable platforms and are working within the parameters that we've been told will generate a response.

#16 Egomane

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:09 AM

The developer answer does not negate the CoC.

And the developers are capable of differantiating artificial trends and natural ones.

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