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[VoltarDark]

I own and have nearly mastered all the mechs but the commandos and few heroes one.

I find that with the last improvement to the netcode, the light weight class one without ECM, especially the commandos are not able to hold theirs ground and by using them, one jeopardized the winning chances of his team.

I cant find any roles for the commandos without ecm but being cannon fodder.

It's very tedious to level them and it`s a real painful experience.

Only the spider or Jenner with jumpjets can be fun.

Suggestion :
Add some internal stealth equipment that mask his position to radar outside a 270 meters or greater range.

See you in game.

[Leeroy Lazer Vomit Kerensky]

I have blast playing the TDK and my Com 1B.

[AlexEss]

You forgot a "in my opinion" in the title.

Beyond that i have never had any problem killing things and staying alive in my Jenner if i play smart... It is just a matter of adapting (or move in to a different class that better suite your playstyle). Now that bing said it is way way to much fun to play right on the edge.. taking risks and feeling that sweet adrenaline as you run through a pack of enemy mechs shooting left and right and coming out the other side still alive.. smoking and red but still alive.

And that is why i pilot light mechs. You can drive you Volvo Atlas estate or your Ford Dragon Focus... Me i'l always love my Ariel Jenner Atom

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

By adapting, you mean running away like a coward hoping you can either get away or lure them to ally help before you die. With an ECM+Streak build however, you can simply hold down a mouse button until they die. ECM has rendered any nonECM Light obsolete. I was enjoying the Spider and TDK food but players like myself stomped them all so much with ECM/Streak abuse that most owners of them have shelfed the things. We don't see them so much anymore.

[Flying Blind]

lights with ECM are more powerful than they should be making you expect the lights without to be stronger than they are thus creating the illusion that they are under-powered when, in fact, they are about right. still seems like ravens can take harder hits than they should be able to but that's another issue.

what I find really obnoxious is how the Raven 2x and 4x cannot equip a decent engine or move at the sort of speeds they need to be in any way useful.

playing lights is not easy, but it is not impossible.

[Sheraf]

Light required a difference play style than heavier mech, just don't charge in the front line

[hammerreborn]

Speak for yourself.

You'll take my Jenner from my cold dead hands (which is far more likely to be from an srm or lrm boat) than a raven.

[0X2A]

Jenner 7-D

Learn to aim and maneuver better. No light can match it in maneuverability and firepower.

Edited by 0X2A, 14 March 2013 - 09:16 AM.

[K0M3D14N]

Bluten, on 14 March 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

By adapting, you mean running away like a coward hoping you can either get away or lure them to ally help before you die. With an ECM+Streak build however, you can simply hold down a mouse button until they die. ECM has rendered any nonECM Light obsolete. I was enjoying the Spider and TDK food but players like myself stomped them all so much with ECM/Streak abuse that most owners of them have shelfed the things. We don't see them so much anymore.

ECM does not make Ravens overpowered. ECM does not give Ravens the magical ability to obliterate other 'Mechs in their weight class. Streaks and the ridiculous amount of damage that Streaks do give Ravens that ability. I do just fine in my COM-1B and I don't use ECM or Streaks.

[VoltarDark]

yomommasamoner, on 14 March 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:

I have blast playing the TDK and my Com 1B.

AlexEss, on 14 March 2013 - 09:06 AM, said:

You forgot a "in my opinion" in the title.

Beyond that i have never had any problem killing things and staying alive in my Jenner if i play smart... It is just a matter of adapting (or move in to a different class that better suite your playstyle). Now that bing said it is way way to much fun to play right on the edge.. taking risks and feeling that sweet adrenaline as you run through a pack of enemy mechs shooting left and right and coming out the other side still alive.. smoking and red but still alive.

And that is why i pilot light mechs. You can drive you Volvo Atlas estate or your Ford Dragon Focus... Me i'l always love my Ariel Jenner Atom

Yes this is my opinion, but did you played them a lot since the last patch in a pug?

Thank you for your comments !

[El Bandito]

I am more scared of a good Jenner-D pilot than a Raven-3L pilot.

[hammerreborn]

VoltarDark, on 14 March 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Yes this is my opinion, but did you played them a lot since the last patch in a pug?

Thank you for your comments !

I play PUG and premades in my Jenner all the time. In fact, nearly 70% now of all my experience gained since the stat reset has been in my jenner D (I have over 1 million xtra xp in it), and another 10% in the other two variants (love my 6 flamer Jenner F as well)

[EyeOne]

Streaks are more the thing to fear than ECM. But I do love running around in my TDK at 136kph. Sometimes it's frustrating to get ***** by some Streak wielding light but the fun outweighs the frustration.

[Leeroy Lazer Vomit Kerensky]

VoltarDark, on 14 March 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Yes this is my opinion, but did you played them a lot since the last patch in a pug?

Thank you for your comments !

Played about 23 games in my TDK since last patch, have to play a little more carefully, but its still a blast for me at least.

Edited by yomommasamoner, 14 March 2013 - 09:24 AM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

K0M3D14N, on 14 March 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

ECM does not make Ravens overpowered. ECM does not give Ravens the magical ability to obliterate other 'Mechs in their weight class. Streaks and the ridiculous amount of damage that Streaks do give Ravens that ability. I do just fine in my COM-1B and I don't use ECM or Streaks.

If "by fine", you mean scrapping the bottom of the boot of an ECM/Streak player. Because that's what I do with my 3L Raven. It isn't even a fight. It doesn't matter how good or "fine" they are. ECM DOES give people that "magical ability", if they stack Streaks with them, lol. Let me explain this to you, because, just like in the other thread, you don't get it. If I have ECM, you can't fire your Streaks vs me, while I can freely spam mine vs you. This means you = slaughtered, unless you get an ECM too. This is the problem.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

Bluten, on 14 March 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

By adapting, you mean running away like a coward hoping you can either get away or lure them to ally help before you die. With an ECM+Streak build however, you can simply hold down a mouse button until they die. ECM has rendered any nonECM Light obsolete. I was enjoying the Spider and TDK food but players like myself stomped them all so much with ECM/Streak abuse that most owners of them have shelfed the things. We don't see them so much anymore.

Liking your own post is not cool, that's twice now I've seen you do it and you complaining about ECM on the forums is gets nothing nowhere 'cos it's all been heard accounted for and PGI is working towards a plan of action. You're the second person ever on my block list, for fluffing your own posts.

And I see spiders do 800+ dmg... and commands can kick my ravens arse w/ the aid of a team mate given they're not alone.

[MechWarrior849305]

I wish my JR7-K had double ballistics instead of missile slots. Disarming heavy guys from backside is fun.

[Leeroy Lazer Vomit Kerensky]

Bluten, on 14 March 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

If "by fine", you mean scrapping the bottom of the boot of an ECM/Streak player. Because that's what I do with my 3L Raven. It isn't even a fight. It doesn't matter how good or "fine" they are. ECM DOES give people that "magical ability", if they stack Streaks with them, lol. Let me explain this to you, because, just like in the other thread, you don't get it. If I have ECM, you can't fire your Streaks vs me, while I can freely spam mine vs you. This means you = slaughtered, unless you get an ECM too. This is the problem.

This is a problem if your fighting a 3L using streaks, but you titled this thread "Light Mechs Without ECM Are Not Fun To Play", which is a different issue.

[Tickdoff Tank]

El Bandito, on 14 March 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

I am more scared of a good Jenner-D pilot than a Raven-3L pilot.

I find that you will usually find the most skilled light pilots in a Jenner, while the Raven 3L pilots are highly diverse in their skill levels.

[Zeh]

Lights can cap better than others. All roles will never be equal in slugging it out. That would be silly. Lights are about information and mobility first, hurting others a distant second or third.