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[jayrow]

Why are the Devs not making maps that are similar to the very popular forest colony?

[VXJaeger]

Too big for 8 vs 8, should be like 20 vs 20.
Medium sized maps are best.

[DragonsFire]

Definitely enjoying the map thus far. One note of feedback, noticed an enemy C4 on one of the crystal spires and had him targets, backed him off with some long range fire. Flipped over to thermal but I noticed that I could still see his heat signature through the crystals via thermal. I would think that this was potentially intended given the terrain type he was on but wanted to make note of it here in case it wasn't. I can give the specific location as well if necessary.

[TheSupergeek]

Too big for most mechs. Takes forever to get around, and there aren't any landmarks to navigate by, aside from the big ring.

Crystals are cool, but very repetitive. Repetitive. Repetitive.

Mazes are okay, but I wouldn't want to play it very often. It's not as bad as Alpine in these respects, though.

[Genewen]

Starting to hate this map. Every second drop is Tourmaline. Last few matches:
Tourmaline - Frozen City - Tourmaline - Forest Colony - Tourmaline - Frozen City - Tourmaline - Forest Colony Snow - Tourmaline.

STOP IT!

Edited by Genewen, 20 March 2013 - 02:17 PM.

[Budor]

The metallic shader effect on the mechs is overdone. Please lower it a bit.

Everything else is really good.

[Warge]

Butane9000, on 20 March 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

I understand it's a desert, my only problem is it is too bright.

There are 2 suns above...

[Kelito]

Map is great, all the things that everyone else said great for fighting a varied and interesting battle. One small thing though, the colors are bland, just like the rest of the maps in the game, browns and grays. I'm not saying candy colored maps here but isn't tourmaline a GREEN color mostly? Definitely not black/gray. I know that this isn't important for all of you pros out there but maybe it should be...We live in a world of color, not black and white, and I mean look at mars...Its red for cripes sake...PGI has a chance to define some standard of extra planetary looks... But I guess bland is best for most of you. Oh and no desserts are not just bland tan, they are pink and green and yellow...Only limited eyes would only see tan...So PBBBBbbbbbbt.....

[White Bear 84]

This map is awesome. Having multiple levels, tunnels, 'arena' area's etc all add numerous dimensions to the game, not to mention it just looks so cool!!

I have to agree with previous points though, the tourmaline should be more green, and the metallic shader is a bit iff.

[SgtMagor]

was a spooky lifeless terrain, had a creepiness to it. don't like being there alone

[Mister Haha]

Would love a half-size map like this. The terrain is so interesting, but it's much harder for anyone who is slower than 110 kph to fully enjoy!

[Nathan Foxbane]

Noticed that Thermal works different between Training Rooms and actual play. In the Training room it works like expected (the surroundings are warm like Caustic) while during matches it looks crisp and easily navigible like thermal used to be in CB.

[White Bear 84]

This map is perfect for the jager!!!

[Arcturious]

Mostly great impressions, love the size, all the winding approaches etc.

Negatives:

As many have said, perhaps some more colour?

Next has been mentioned as well, but I believe some of the crystals need tweaking. There was one section near the dropship rib, where a low wall of crystals spikes up. You can walk along the top as if it were flat ground. Many have very steep angles, yet you can glide up them. I really like finding places where my mech can explore, knowing short cuts etc. So far though there are very few places you can't go. I almost feel like I could ignore the terrain and just walk from one side if the map to the other.

On the whole, very minor issues. The map is great work, so much detail and thought clearly went into it. I'm sure it will continue to be tweaked over time to clean up the movement stuff.

Edited by Arcturious, 20 March 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[Jimskiavic]

A great looking map. I like that it's a very different and unusual look.

One aspect of this map that I think is excellent is its 'verticality'. That is, it's got a lot of slopes (which, apart from the crystals themselves, aren't at ridiculous gradients) and different levels for people to be at. Not only at distance, but up close too. There are some neat little craters/ridges/depressions/rises/etc that mechs can duck behind to use as brief cover when brawling. Adds another tactical dimension (as compared to simply moving about thinking about little else but shooting at each other).

I do agree though that these larger maps are severely handicapped by the way Conquest is configured on them. The cap limit is too low, but also the resource collectors are too far flung. I would far prefer to see several collectors in fairly close proximity to each other, such that the battle is in a constant state of flux, moving around them. You would still need some 'distant' ones, but less distant than these. Maybe two small clusters with a couple of outliers might work better. Not sure. Either way, the current setup doesn't encourage and foster combat on the large maps. (Just to be clear though: I love the large maps, they have far more tactical potential - it's just we're not properly able to leverage that at the moment).

[Ryvucz]

I like it, gives an alien world feel to it.

Not nearly as hot as I suspect it's supposed to be though.

Plenty of cover and sniper areas.

Fun times with this map. '(^.^)'

[Forestal]

2 words: "S.T.A.L.K.E.R." heaven!

Not the mech class, but the game (and the movie) inspired by the Strugatsky novel "Roadside Picnic"-- though it was probably not the Devs' intention... But "Use Cover CONSTANTLY" players will know what I mean.


I think the Devs set out to create a map that was the polar-opposite of Alpine Peaks in every sense except for scale:

1) Whereas I could stand on high-ground and scout/snipe for miles around in Alpine Peaks, the terrain features in Tourmaline Desert is just ridiculously complex.

2) Whereas the dark figures of the mechs stood out against the white snow/background of Alpine Peaks, they now blend into the terrain features in Tourmaline Desert so much-- that they might as well be camouflaged if not for their metallic sheen.

3) Whereas the heat signatures of the mechs were contrasted with the low ambient temperature of Alpine Peaks in thermal vision, they are now less distinguishable against the high ambient temperature of Tourmaline Desert

All of which means you almost need to a trained "stalker" to guide you around the place-- and having a forward scout is a good idea even if you know the place well... so congratulations to the Devs, if that is their intention, for creating a map in which you practically need Sun Tzu's Art of War to navigate tactically (Just spent a half-hour exploring Tourmaline Desert in Testing Ground, trying to figure out which nook/cranny is good for what tactic).


And having created LARGE maps like Alpine Peaks and Tourmaline Deserts, as well as Caustic Valley which are designed for a completely different play-style than the SMALL maps like Forest Colony and River City, as well as Frozen City, I think the Devs need to create new "Launch" Options:

A. Assault- LARGE
B. Assault- SMALL
C. Assault- ALL

D. Conquest- LARGE
E. Conquest- SMALL
F. Conquest- ALL

G. Any- LARGE
H. Any- SMALL
I. Any- ALL


Cos I DON'T wanna play in the SMALL maps any more! At least not until the rate of capture and resource collection is HALVED-- so that there is actually a point to having a 15-min time limit (see LARGE maps)....

And I'm sure there are even more people who DON'T ever want to play in LARGE maps to begin with-- cos fps games should never force you to do FORWARD scouting/planning... (there's a reason "Use Cover CONSTANTLY" games like "S.T.A.L.K.E.R." are rather niche).

Edited by Forestal, 20 March 2013 - 10:25 PM.

[Bobzilla]

I like it a lot. A problem is some of the jagged rocks are way bigger than they appear, ie they block weapons and sensors when you can clearly see a mech. I know this happens with other maps, but this map seems like it adds another invisiable 10m to some of the rocks.

[Ewigan]

I like it a lot

[LordDante]

that dropship wreckage gives me the urge to start digging for losttech! can i haz shovel plz !