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[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

I'm Sorry, Camping is not a tactic and only cowards camp....the only teams you see doing it are teams that are completely new and teams who's leaders are completely uneducated and mentally incapable of coming up with REAL tactics......just saying

[JSparrowist]

stun, on 24 January 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

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Typos happen.. please get the sand out of your ******.

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[Megalosauroid]

Edited by Megalosauroid, 24 January 2013 - 07:41 PM.

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

Actually i have dyslexia real bad...lets not focus on that...as I am sure some people will

[Joseph Mallan]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 24 January 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

I'm Sorry, Camping is not a tactic and only cowards camp....the only teams you see doing it are teams that are completely new and teams who's leaders are completely uneducated and mentally incapable of coming up with REAL tactics......just saying

No. No. No. NO!
Camping is fighting defensively. It makes an enemy work for their victory and is a historically strong tactic. There is nothing cowardly in waiting till the enemy comes to you and smashing them while the break themselves against your defenses. Read some Sun Tzu.

[StalaggtIKE]

... I'm getting trolled, aren't I?

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 24 January 2013 - 07:43 PM.

[The Cheese]

Defending a point is a valid and reasonably successful tactic. That is, unless you're defending from the high ground base in River City. That never works.

[Neogodhobo]

"Camping" is one of the best strategy there is. Universally approved by all military institution of the world. I dont think im going to bother what some guy who has never been in a war think about what is tactical or not during a battle.

[Orgasmo]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 24 January 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

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What are you? 12 years old?

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[TheRevanent]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 24 January 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

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Way to take some constructive criticism there Peekaboo. I agree with Stun, strategically holding a choke point or frequently traveled spot on a map is a very fair and effective tactic, far better than moving your entire team in random directions across the battle zone so you don't "camp".

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[Megalosauroid]

TheRevanent, on 24 January 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Way to take some constructive criticism there Peekaboo. I agree with Stun, strategically holding a choke point or frequently traveled spot on a map is a very fair and effective tactic, far better than moving your entire team in random directions across the battle zone so you don't "camp".

That is a legitimate strategy but it's not what people tend to do. A lot of games one team just holds up somewhere, particularly on that hill in frozen city, and waits for the other team to come at them knowing that they will all be together while the other team will most likely be at least a little split up by the differing mech top speeds.

Really its down to PGI to give teams a reason not to do this though. Since they've nerfed the rewards for capping its not really a reason not to camp anymore.

[Termius]

Playing on defence is viable in MWO, and it's not cowardice. Its slowly whitteling away at your enemy until they finally close in. By the time they reach you they should be hurting, and your intact brawlers can finish the job. In a team game where tactics count playing on defence is viable, just like going on offence.

It's really a matter of what your teams composition is like. If you have a whole bunch of brawlers with MLs and SRMS you would do better on offence. If you have guys with LRM's, LLs, and gauss's defence works rather well. It is a real tactic in every sense, and if you are tired of dealing with "campers" (really this term doesn't belong in MWO, camping like in other FPS games is nearly impossible) then create a so called "real tactic" to counter them.

It's a tactic like any other tactic, and your disdain towards it won't change the fact.

[Joseph Mallan]

Megalosauroid, on 24 January 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

That is a legitimate strategy but it's not what people tend to do. A lot of games one team just holds up somewhere, particularly on that hill in frozen city, and waits for the other team to come at them knowing that they will all be together while the other team will most likely be at least a little split up by the differing mech top speeds.

Really its down to PGI to give teams a reason not to do this though. Since they've nerfed the rewards for capping its not really a reason not to camp anymore.

Why should a combat strategy be restricted from use in a combat game?

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

I am not saying to restrict it, I am just saying it is cowardly


it is an extremely Novice tactic

Edited by Peekaboo I C JU, 24 January 2013 - 07:59 PM.

[Megalosauroid]

Joseph Mallan, on 24 January 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

Why should a combat strategy be restricted from use in a combat game?

It shouldn't but in order to make the game interesting strategies need to have pros and cons, at the moment the pros of camping are massive and the cons are non existent.

[stun]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 24 January 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

I don't turn a blind eyes to insults.......

Couldn't care less what you turn a blind eye too or not, just found it funny you mentioning people's education and yet not checking the title before you posted. Not that I'm some sort of grammer person, but its the title of all things.

Just relax man, no one cares how mad you get

[Sean von Steinike]

Let me a guess? A CoD reject that rushes in like he's got unlimited re-spawns? Camping is completely valid. So is maneuvering. Rushing can even be valid when done right or against the right opponents. Everything is situational. A REAL leader, with REAL tactics can think up ways to dislodge a camping team. Guess that leader isn't you there OP. Not saying it is me either but if you are going to whine about bad leaders, best look at yourself first.

Edited by Sean von Steinike, 24 January 2013 - 08:01 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 24 January 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

I am not saying to restrict it, I am just saying it is cowardly

it is an extremely Novice tactic

You must not have military training then sir.

Megalosauroid, on 24 January 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

It shouldn't but in order to make the game interesting strategies need to have pros and cons, at the moment the pros of camping are massive and the cons are non existent.

So let me get this straight. Base rushing is bad cause folks won't fight, And camping is bad cause it forces one side to be put at a disadvantage in a fight? I am seeing a familiar pattern in this line of thinking.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 24 January 2013 - 08:02 PM.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 24 January 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

I am not saying to restrict it, I am just saying it is cowardly


it is an extremely Novice tactic

but it works! if i stand gaurd and take out some one approaching like a hunter springing a trap then all for the better, that's a stratagy in a combat game. camping also has it's draw backs if you stay too long and focused for too long you recieve a surprise flanking to the face another legit stratagy. so spot the camper go round and shoot him in the back, lols all round!

[Megalosauroid]

Joseph Mallan, on 24 January 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

So let me get this straight. Base rushing is bad cause folks won't fight, And camping is bad cause it forces one side to be put at a disadvantage in a fight? I am seeing a familiar pattern in this line of thinking.

Actually the assault game type is bad, conquest goes a long way towards solving the problem because it encourages teams to move around the map and thus you get a bunch of more varied engagements and if one team camps you have options beyond run at them and hope you're a better shot than they are.

Edited by Megalosauroid, 24 January 2013 - 08:08 PM.