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Poll: State of the game - PPC(ER) (50 member(s) have cast votes)

PPC(ER) Damage

  1. It's fine where it is! (40 votes [80.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. It's low! (9 votes [18.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.00%

  3. It's too high! (1 votes [2.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.00%

PPC(ER) HPS

  1. It's fine! (39 votes [78.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 78.00%

  2. It's low! (3 votes [6.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

  3. I'm melting! (8 votes [16.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.00%

Skill Required

  1. For everybody! (32 votes [64.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.00%

  2. For babies! (1 votes [2.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.00%

  3. For veterans! (17 votes [34.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.00%

Weight

  1. It's perfect! (45 votes [90.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 90.00%

  2. Too heavy! (2 votes [4.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.00%

  3. Not heavy enough! (3 votes [6.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

Utilization

  1. Great niche! (23 votes [46.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.00%

  2. ECM Denial is pointless! (5 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. ECM Denial is OP! (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. ECM Denial not good enough! (22 votes [44.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.00%

Pancakes or Waffles?

  1. Waffles! (12 votes [24.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

  2. I want to say pancakes but I can't, so I love waffles! (9 votes [18.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.00%

  3. Why no toppings? (19 votes [38.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.00%

  4. We the people deserve waffles. (10 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

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#1 Treye Snow

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:27 PM

Waffles > Pancakes.

Edited by Mr Terribad, 23 March 2013 - 09:29 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

We still need the scrambling of the screen from PPC shots. ECM counter wasn't enough.

#3 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:33 PM

PPCs and ERPPCs are really well-balanced right now.

#4 FrostCollar

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 23 March 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

PPCs and ERPPCs are really well-balanced right now.

I concur.

#5 M0rpHeu5

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:47 PM

I want PPCs to delay the missile lock on for a little time and scramble the map screen but i like them already

#6 yashmack

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:50 PM

I agree Waffles > Pancakes...

#7 Sephlock

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:38 PM

[#10355] You must cast your vote in each question of the poll.

:rolleyes:. I wanted to vote both.

There is room in my heart *for the cholesterol from the toppings of* both waffles AND pancakes.

#8 Mazzyplz

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:41 PM

no, what we need is for it to do heat damage, like a flamethrower;

this is part of the original design, check sarna dot net.

the ppc should be increasing your target's heat by a least a little bit, it doesn't in the game.
the damage is low at 10 when compared to a gauss, but if this heat is added then all would be good

#9 Ohari

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:41 PM

agreed with many of the others here..PPC(ER) are both well balanced. ONLY thing I cant figure out is the min range on the PPC. I really would have thought that the ER would have had a min range and not the other way around.

EDIT: So I went and looked at Sarna on the PPC and found that it does indeed have a min range...go figure

Edited by Ohari, 23 March 2013 - 10:45 PM.


#10 M1N3CRAF7

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:42 PM

the only problem ive found with PPC/er is hit registration.

#11 Mazzyplz

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:49 PM

if you go to smurfy's mechlab and click on the weapons you will see the heat damage listed for the flamethrower.
0.2 heat on the target.

the ppc does not list any heat damage even though it should, this is a mistake - with the game!
there's no reason the ppc shots shouldn't increase 0.1 heat on target each confirmed hit

Edited by Mazzyplz, 23 March 2013 - 10:53 PM.


#12 Deathlike

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:55 PM

With the advent of the hex-PPC stalker, I lean towards the heat on the regular PPC is a tad too low. Actually, I'm more bothered by how the ER large is way too hot, and the PPC is way too cool. Something like PPC heat increase to 9.25 and/or a corresponding ER Large heat decrease to 9 would be better.

When was the last time anyone boated an ER large? Seriously.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:56 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 23 March 2013 - 10:55 PM, said:

With the advent of the hex-PPC stalker, I lean towards the heat on the regular PPC is a tad too low. Actually, I'm more bothered by how the ER large is way too hot, and the PPC is way too cool. Something like PPC heat increase to 9.25 and/or a corresponding ER Large heat decrease to 9 would be better.

When was the last time anyone boated an ER large? Seriously.


Insert Goldilocks reference here.

#14 boomboom517

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:57 PM

the only problem i have is the visuals are wrong

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:57 PM

View PostOhari, on 23 March 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

agreed with many of the others here..PPC(ER) are both well balanced. ONLY thing I cant figure out is the min range on the PPC. I really would have thought that the ER would have had a min range and not the other way around.

EDIT: So I went and looked at Sarna on the PPC and found that it does indeed have a min range...go figure


PPC min range is about 90m I think. Still does damage under that, but significantly less. The lack of the min range on the ER model is why I have it on my Cent -AL instead of a standard PPC - I can reach out and touch someone, and still keep the "main gun" in the fight when I close to brawling range.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:58 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 23 March 2013 - 10:55 PM, said:

With the advent of the hex-PPC stalker, I lean towards the heat on the regular PPC is a tad too low. Actually, I'm more bothered by how the ER large is way too hot, and the PPC is way too cool. Something like PPC heat increase to 9.25 and/or a corresponding ER Large heat decrease to 9 would be better.

When was the last time anyone boated an ER large? Seriously.

wrong the heat of a ppc is 10 er 15 and er large is 12 anyone who plays tt knows this. it would be nice if pgi played tt





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