44 replies to this topic

[lessergod]

How much longer must we suffer this crappy ELO system? 2 Hero mechs? 4 Dashboard bobbles? If I had a change that failed this miserably, it would have already been rolled back.

Edited by lessergod, 28 March 2013 - 06:50 AM.

[Tennex]

hero mechs arnt really better than anything else.

but the DCs are cray cray

[Syllogy]

The lack of Mechs on the other side is because of Map-Filter Exploiters.

Blame the cheaters, not the matchmaker.

[Slater01]

What? are you saying 8vs4 is not fair?

You did manage to kill 3 on the other team, not bad

Hey something is not right. The winning team is always on the top. Im confused.

[lessergod]

Statement of Hero Mechs and Bobbleheads was a dig at the fact that crap doesn't get fixed until it affects their income.... still waiting on the DX11 banner for my mech that will help fund the shift off of 10 year old driver tech... that is right Dx9 came out in 2002.

Slater01, on 28 March 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

Hey something is not right. The winning team is always on the top. Im confused.

Was SSed before it went to the score screen.

[Joseph Mallan]

Why aren't the enemy Mechs displayed? I always see the enemy Mechs on my end of match screen?

But yeah MM needs to match weight classes again.

Got the answer by lesser god

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 28 March 2013 - 06:56 AM.

[lessergod]

Syllogy, on 28 March 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

The lack of Mechs on the other side is because of Map-Filter Exploiters.

Blame the cheaters, not the matchmaker.

BS, I have had this happen before the map drop exploit came out and it was one of the new maps... not like it was river Sh*ty night or Caustic.

[FupDup]

Joseph Mallan, on 28 March 2013 - 06:55 AM, said:

But yeah MM needs to match weight classes again.

That would make life a lot better, but it still wouldn't be perfect. Class-matching assumes that an Awesome is equal to an Atlas...yeah...about that...

Edited by FupDup, 28 March 2013 - 06:59 AM.

[lessergod]

You can't match based solely on tonnage: They need to use a battle value for the mech (ie Raven 3L w/ECM = 100 vs Raven 4X = 50) as well as the pilot ELO score.

[Mechteric]

You had 2 disconnects thats not Elo's fault, its the fault of people who remove Alpine from their game files

[lessergod]

FupDup, on 28 March 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

Class-matching assumes that an Awesome is equal to an Atlas...yeah...about that...

he didn't say "Class" he said tonnage.

CapperDeluxe, on 28 March 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

You had 2 disconnects thats not Elo's fault, its the fault of people who remove Alpine from their game files

Where do you see 2 disconnects?

[FupDup]

lessergod, on 28 March 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

He didn't say "Class" he said tonnage.

He said "weight classes." Evidence:

Joseph Mallan, on 28 March 2013 - 06:55 AM, said:

But yeah MM needs to match weight classes again.

Edited by FupDup, 28 March 2013 - 07:03 AM.

[Sedant]

I'm pretty sure we would all be sitting around twiddling our thumbs waiting for nothing to ever happen then. I personnaly cannot find solo matches most of the time anymore, Is anyone else having this happen to them?

[lessergod]

FupDup, on 28 March 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

He said "weight classes." Evidence:

sorry: failure to scroll

[Slater01]

When I hear the word Sufferance. I just think about the Customers Sufferance Warehouse I used to work, were I suffered.

[lessergod]

Sedant, on 28 March 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure we would all be sitting around twiddling our thumbs waiting for nothing to ever happen then. I personnaly cannot find solo matches most of the time anymore, Is anyone else having this happen to them?

I have had it reject solo searches in < 5 seconds before... grants a lot of warm fuzzies. (Grabs suspenders) I tell myself it's because there just isn't any other pilots as awesome as I am online...

Edited by lessergod, 28 March 2013 - 07:09 AM.

[Mister Blastman]

lessergod, on 28 March 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

You can't match based solely on tonnage: They need to use a battle value for the mech (ie Raven 3L w/ECM = 100 vs Raven 4X = 50) as well as the pilot ELO score.

Don't forget streaks, too. Their torso-seeking, almost always hit, light-wrecking power should add another 100 to the BV of any mech at least.

If there is /anything/ that reliably gets me in a Jenner, it is streaks. They're a broken scourge.

As for ELO--yeah, it is totally broken. It seems to be counting fresh noobs at 1300 base ELO as valuable as veterans who've played 100+ drops @ 1300. Asinine.

Also, people who contest that ELO is not taking super high ELO players and balancing them out with super low ELO players obviously haven't had it done to them repeatedly. It does happen.

[lessergod]

I just don't get it: How can you go based on a pilot score when the abilities of most pilots fluctuate based on the chassis and load-out. How many Raven 3L pilots are capable out side of that class? I guarantee if you put them into any other chassis they would be matched based on their ELO and would summarily be out piloted.

[Mister Blastman]

From what I understand you have separate ELO scores for each class. I've witnessed this running a Stalker--as I never, ever run assaults. I run into people I've never seen before instead of the usuals when I pilot a heavy.

I don't think that is good enough, though. The system really needs to factor noobs with 0 - 50 games as fresh and give them a 0 for ELO so they aren't grouped with normal players. Let them play in the kiddie pool for a while to establish their ELO before feeding them to the sharks. It might do wonders for player retention, both good players and bad.

[Joseph Mallan]

FupDup, on 28 March 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

That would make life a lot better, but it still wouldn't be perfect. Class-matching assumes that an Awesome is equal to an Atlas...yeah...about that...

Depends on who's driving the Awesome. I know a few Awesome pilots I don't like facing in my D-DC.