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#21 S3dition

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:58 AM

View Postslide, on 23 March 2013 - 03:53 AM, said:

Rambling monologue and challenge to ban my account


Actually, if they don't post on the forums, but buy MC, their opinion does matter. As a bit of trivia, the groups I play with buy MC and very rarely visit the forums.

Guess what? You can't get everything you want. Every time a new president is elected, the opinion of millions of people is ignored. If it hasn't destroyed the world yet, it probably won't be the end of a video game.

Edited by S3dition, 23 March 2013 - 06:00 AM.


#22 Kvalheim

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:02 AM

Forums do not represent a significan proportion of the game's playerbase, only the most vocal amount. They probably have better numbers on the amount of players compared to the amount of active forum accounts, and my guess is the number of requests they've gotten for 3PV is larger than the people who voted against on a forum poll.

Edited by Kvalheim, 23 March 2013 - 06:11 AM.


#23 Mystere

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:05 AM

View PostMadPanda, on 23 March 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

You guys are so insensitive. Did we suddenly forget the existance of third world countries? How about you start your calculations on how many people own a computer.


But the OLPC project aims to fix that! :)

View PostThirdstar, on 23 March 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

I would personally rather play a good game than a bad game. I won't actively support MWO JUST because it's the 'salvation' of Battletech/Mechwarrior gaming.

Are many of you so desperate for ANY game in this setting that you've dropped your standards to just have A game instead of having a GOOD game?


I don't know about everybody else, but, I myself will evaluate the actual product. As such I am reserving judgement until MWO is more or less feature complete (however PGI defines it).

Edited by Mystere, 23 March 2013 - 06:11 AM.


#24 Chrithu

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:14 AM

View PostMadPanda, on 23 March 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

You guys are so insensitive. Did we suddenly forget the existance of third world countries? How about you start your calculations on how many people own a computer.


This is about third person view not third world countries. Get your facts straight man.

:P

Well jokes aside. Doing calculations based on that would mean taking a reasonable stance on this topic. That is obviously not what these forums are meant for. By design. I mean we didn't start that. Brian himself was it that said they think adding 3rd persons get's in more players. In my book that is decision making based on gut feelings, so I will counter argue with gut feelings. And if it's only for the sake of demonstrating that argumenting with gut feelings might be a bad idea :).

#25 ICEFANG13

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:25 AM

They can't know or not know unless they ask, 3rd person may not change anything, but I suspect they suspect it will help retain new player who have trouble reading the map or hud (I mean to be completely honest, this is my first MW game, and I had zero trouble understanding this, never played WOT, in fact I just built this computer, and MWO was one of the first games I downloaded, its not hard at all, especially when there is training grounds, and then there's the HUD or minimap bugs, its so hard to tell which way my legs are facing, I'm only moving that way, or the C to center, so you can look that way).

It really isn't fair to discount the forum poll. OK so it may be a small sample size, but that sample size is staggeringly against it, it is fair to say you want more votes, but its not fair to assume the opposite of what the forum polls said. Its like saying every time we doubled the amount of votes, the amount of pro-3PV went up greater than anti.

I mean, sure it can be different, BUT, there is nothing that would indicate that if twice as many people voted, it would look significantly different.

I'm surprised they don't do a patch poll every patch to get info.

#26 POWR

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:42 AM

Blablabla.

If people want 3rd person they can go play another game. End of story. I mean, people also want instawin buttons, free mechs, free hacks, free kills, extra bonus on everything, and all these other things. Should we just give them whatever they want? No. People don't know how to design a good game, designing by committee will result in a broken product.

#27 Sadist Cain

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:53 AM

Forget which side of the fence you sit on.

Something was promised to people on the website and forums.

Money was asked for in the form of founders programs to get the game a start, money was asked for on kickstarter under that same promise.

Money was happily taken from people who were told that this company was going to try to make a something a certain way.

when the people who you've taken money are asked about their thoughts on the project going another direction, they overwhelmingly respond NO (these same people who provided money to help get this project off the ground)

Presented with that the company has decided "They're a narrow demographic" and not worth listening to.

If all these people who pledged their money for a mechwarrior game rather than CoD with mechs decided PGi was a narrow minded demographic of the gaming industry and their view dosn't matter as much none of us would be here





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