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[Skyfaller]

This mech is so light it can barely carry a single AC2 with enough ammo to maybe be of annoyance.


Could we please allow this tiny mech to carry a lot more ballistic slots so we can go all machine gun? It would be a niche mech at the least if so.

12 ballistic slots. 3 in each of the arm/torso sections.

That should be enough damage to match a mech that has 2 medium lasers.

[Pinselborste]

wont help, mgs need to be brought to the same dps as a small laser, that will fix it.

boating crap weapons wont make them any better.

[Phaesphoros]

Currenly, I have 4 MGs + 2 t ammo + AMS+1ammo + 1 MPL = 6.5 t in my 5K. 12 MG = 6 t, but where's the ammo?
I'm also sad I lost the dakka throne to JM6-DD. But 12 MGs are also silly.

[CloaknDagger]

Phaesphoros, on 22 March 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Currenly, I have 4 MGs + 2 t ammo + AMS+1ammo + 1 MPL = 6.5 t in my 5K. 12 MG = 6 t, but where's the ammo?
I'm also sad I lost the dakka throne to JM6-DD. But 12 MGs are also silly.

What's wrong with 12 MGs? The Piranha does it.

[Skyfaller]

Phaesphoros, on 22 March 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Currenly, I have 4 MGs + 2 t ammo + AMS+1ammo + 1 MPL = 6.5 t in my 5K. 12 MG = 6 t, but where's the ammo?
I'm also sad I lost the dakka throne to JM6-DD. But 12 MGs are also silly.

you dump the MPL for a TAG and you get 1 ton more of ammo. You dump the AMS which you really dont need and get 1 more ton of ammo. You lower the engine a bit to get more ammo. I used to run the max engine size on it now and ive downgraded a couple of numbers..only lost 15kph .. but im still fast and got loads and loads of ammo.

...of course it does squat but.. its nice to see all of it

[Phaesphoros]

Skyfaller, on 22 March 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

you dump the MPL for a TAG and you get 1 ton more of ammo. You dump the AMS which you really dont need and get 1 more ton of ammo. You lower the engine a bit to get more ammo. I used to run the max engine size on it now and ive downgraded a couple of numbers..only lost 15kph .. but im still fast and got loads and loads of ammo.

...of course it does squat but.. its nice to see all of it

Compare 6.5 t (including weapons, ammo and even AMS) vs. 6 t MG alone (not even ammo included!!)
. That's what I meant.

You could downgrade the engine, right. But you wouldn't get much of it, perhaps 1-2 t. Or you leave out the JJ. Now a slow light mech w/o JJ is what? Almost dead if not being ignored.


Edit: meh, sry, not in a good mood right now. 6-8 MG, possibly. But 12 is too many IMHO, not very useful.

Edited by Phaesphoros, 22 March 2013 - 05:33 PM.

[Skyfaller]

Phaesphoros, on 22 March 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Compare 6.5 t (including weapons, ammo and even AMS) vs. 6 t MG alone (not even ammo included!!)
. That's what I meant.

You could downgrade the engine, right. But you wouldn't get much of it, perhaps 1-2 t. Or you leave out the JJ. Now a slow light mech w/o JJ is what? Almost dead if not being ignored.


Edit: meh, sry, not in a good mood right now. 6-8 MG, possibly. But 12 is too many IMHO, not very useful.

Or the devs could be awfully nice and reduce the mgs to 0.25 per ton AND up the ammo per ton

Edited by Skyfaller, 22 March 2013 - 06:08 PM.

[EODGunner]

Original request, however I play light mechs, (Jenner actually) and love to play support roles. I like to run TAG and Cap Accel. I rarely run TAG anymore because I hate and DESPISE LRM boats because of how popular they are, so I dropped that from my list, and run annoyance (IE 4x Sm Pulse or Med Las... also, before you say Sm Pulse sucks, try saying that when you outdamage a enemy team with them only to win the match against a heavy / assault. Video to prove)

Either way, try more of an annoyance and support role, and you'll see your damage soar in those light mechs. JMHO, so for this post, I disagree. sorry, but again nice original request.

[Pinselborste]

mgs just need their damage trippled, they still would be weaker than a small laser cause of the accuracy, but would be worth their weight than.

[Skyfaller]

either that or add a module 'armor piercing' that has a 0.005% chance per bullet of piercing the armor and causing internal damage...and increase the rate of fire (or bullets fired per click).

[Pinselborste]

Skyfaller, on 23 March 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:

either that or add a module 'armor piercing' that has a 0.005% chance per bullet of piercing the armor and causing internal damage...and increase the rate of fire (or bullets fired per click).

0.005% of 0.04 damage wont help.

they just need a damage increase to 1 dps, and they will be fine, but devs seem to fully ignore balance problems with the mg and the flamer.

[Skyfaller]

Pinselborste, on 23 March 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

0.005% of 0.04 damage wont help.

they just need a damage increase to 1 dps, and they will be fine, but devs seem to fully ignore balance problems with the mg and the flamer.

0.04 damage has nothing to do with the chance of penetrating the armor. You need to remember the machine gun spits out 1000 rounds pretty darn fast and that means quite a few will punch through and hit internals. Of course the 0.005 could just as well be 0.05% ..it all really depends on the actual amount of bullets the thing fires. I'll leave that up to the devs.

[Gaan Cathal]

Skyfaller, on 23 March 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

0.04 damage has nothing to do with the chance of penetrating the armor. You need to remember the machine gun spits out 1000 rounds pretty darn fast and that means quite a few will punch through and hit internals. Of course the 0.005 could just as well be 0.05% ..it all really depends on the actual amount of bullets the thing fires. I'll leave that up to the devs.

Actually, the number of rounds that punch through and hit internals can be calculated:

0 x 0 + 0 = 0

This is because rounds punching through armour and hitting internals isn't a thing that happens in MWO.