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[Quentin Yatoki]

Kreisel, on 05 June 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

Updated to reflect the new numbers at 435 votes.

We had more commanders in this last batch and the interest in that role has grown across all weight classes.

For each pilot who indicated they drive a certain weight class, the following is the average number of roles picked.
Light: 1.65 Roles per Pilot
Medium: 1.88 Roles per Pilot
Heavy: 1.57 Roles per Pilot
Assault: 1.74 Roles per Pilot

Interestingly, this indicates Medium Pilots are indeed the most willing to fulfill a variety of jobs, while Heavy pilots are the least flexible in what role they fulfill. At least, given the current numbers. I was a touch surprised by how flexible this would indicate Assault Pilots are, then again with that much tonnage, the thought may be they can perform dual-roles. For instance, having enough armor for defense, but still loading enough guns for offense in the same build. Also they have the greatest percentage of Commanders which may be more likely to feel a need to perform a role other than 'giving orders' on the battlefield (especially if more than one commander ques into the same Lance).

On that note, I'm pretty happy with the numbers I'm seeing role wise. With these percentages out of a 12 Man team we could expect to see.
~2-3 Scouts
~4 Offense
~3 Defense
~2 Commanders
That seems like a pretty workable and balanced team to me.

I agree with all of this. The numbers look pretty good. The only concern I have is the significant number of commanders in Assaults. It has been my experience that you want your heaviest units (your assaults) at the front of the pushes engaging the enemy. Usually when you find yourself in that position, you are too busy fighting to command. In my opinion the best mechs for commanders are Mediums and Heavies. Survivable enough to keep your commander in the fight, tough enough for the commander to fill in a gap personally if need be, but at the same time able to hang back and allow the commander keep an eye on the entire situation with out wasting heavy damage dealer/damage tank.

[UnLimiTeD]

The best command mech is generally the mech witht he best command equipment.
C3i, ECM, BAP, Decent Armor and ok speed. It's hard to cramp all that in a medium mech, i guess a heavy would be better.
Assaults with that config aren't normally deprived of long range weaponry.

[Kreisel]

There are a couple things that might account for the tendency for bigger mechs being linked to the command role.

Traditionally a lot of the iconic command mechs in TT were large, as you needed to be at least a heavy to mount a command console on a mech, it made a lot of sense. Currently there is no indication of plans for dual cockpits or command console (though I kinda think it would be cool to have command Console option that let you bring in an extra player into the match in a semi-spectator role, with their own modules loaded on the mech, so they could issue orders and stuff.) But we are still used to the idea of certain mechs like the Battlemaster and Black Knight being used as command Mechs.

Also in the places they have talked about the command Role, there have been indications the commander would need to be protected because they will have in game windows open that might make them less aware of immediate surroundings, or have split their attention from danger at hand to focus on the larger picture. Larger mechs are more likely to be able to take a hit and would be more forgiving if you have to take your hands off the controls for a moment in the heat of battle to issue orders with mouse clicks and keyboard commands.

One should also consider Ego, those who like to be in charge also tend to like to be in the spotlight, the center of attention, and what better way than to command from the cockpit of the biggest scariest machine you can get your hands on. I say this because well... I can be a bit of a spotlight hog myself at times.

Since we're not restricted to a drop weight or BV per team, having the commander in a big mech doesn't really take away guns from the team, it doesn't force someone else to pilot a different sized mech. Modules are going to be whats really important for them, and we don't know which mechs will have more or less of those yet.

[Kreisel]

Updated for the new numbers at 503 respondents.

Heavy/Offense remains the most common Tonnage/Role combination by a good margin.

Compared to the 429 Scouts there will be 149 dedicated to hunting them or interfering with their signals. Roughly 2.8 scouts per counter-scout. I think this means we can expect to see at least one dedicated scout-hunter in most games. Especially given as it worked out about 30% of overall responses checked this role.

There are at least enough volunteers on these forums to form 4 'Lyran Recon lances'.

More people have shown an interest in the Clans (or atleast their mechs) than have shown interest in piloting mechs as a Lone Wolf. Either that or Lone Wolves are more picky about sticking to a single weight class than the Clans are.

People who want to drive Clan mechs still favor the big ones (Heavy and above) much more than any other group.

There are 91 more responses regarding group/faction loyalty than there are people who responded to this pole. So somewhere between 2% and 18% of the people who responded have split loyalties.

Edited by Kreisel, 06 June 2012 - 04:25 AM.

[Kreisel]

Although I prefer not just bumb the thread for it's own sake, Doing so in the hopes of more people seeing it and responding, since the thread fell to the third page and has only had 13 new responses since the update.

Edited by Kreisel, 07 June 2012 - 04:19 AM.

[Duncan Aravain]

No Mechwarrior RPG?

Been playing the game in some form from the mid 80's, including winning some TT tourneys at Cons. Favorite experience has to be the VR pods at North Pier in Chicago. The first time I entered a pod and started to configure my weapon systems was pure magic!

[Shadowscythe]

Was going to make a poll like this, but found this one

Going for light for recon and heavy for command...There are going to be enough attack/defend role people as is.

[Kreisel]

It's been a while since this was near enough to front to get noticed and get many more responses, so giving it a quick bumb to see if it's worth reviving.

[Goldhawk]

Can we get a list of the Urbanmech pilots so when the game begins we can kill them 1st?

[Shadowscythe]

Goldhawk, on 13 June 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Can we get a list of the Urbanmech pilots so when the game begins we can kill them 1st?

Can't wait to send a gauss slug through one of their heads at long range

[Kreisel]

Goldhawk, on 13 June 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Can we get a list of the Urbanmech pilots so when the game begins we can kill them 1st?

Sorry but the I chose to leave this poll anonymous in the hopes it would encourage people to be more honest with their answers.

If you really want to see who wants to pilot an Urban Mech, Look here. Good luck, from the look of things if we ever do get Urban Mechs there will be plenty of Trashcans around to clean up the the Garbage of the MW:O galaxy,

[Dataman]

I saw this

Female(7 votes [0.19%])

please be more girls.

Fireball007, on 01 June 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Give me assault and the rest is history

yay you're our c-bills profitable source.

Edited by Dataman, 13 June 2012 - 09:55 PM.

[Hawkeye 72]

Dataman, on 13 June 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

I saw this

Female(7 votes [0.19%])

please be more girls.

There are only around 500 users who identify themselves as female

If you are looking for a date, go to Eharmony

If you are looking for a gf, stop sitting on these forums at 2am and go out a bit lol

If you are a girl and looking for more female friends...well...SOOL?

[slide]

Just added my vote.

Thought there might be more commanders. Glad there's not as this would entail far too much politicing for my taste.

[Dran]

casual bump to keep this close to the top. interesting data.

[Kreisel]

Saw a similar but biased post hit the front page, so figured I'd bump this seeing as that shows an continued interest in this kinda data/poll.

[Dhimmi]

only 8 female voters... expected to be low but not that low

[Pook600]

Bump.... Good stuff

[Pook600]

bumping again. I'd like to hit the 1k mark on a very well thought out poll. Credit to the OP

[PixelPixie]

wheres steiner in the listing of houses..didnt see it there.
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