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[BadBird]

Whats better?

[Angel of Annihilation]

I personally think the new Battlemaster looks better, in fact the new Battlemaster has prehaps the best model I have yet seen in MWO.

[FupDup]

Pretty much everything by Alex looks better than the original.


My only gripe with his Battlemaster is that the legs look almost copied from his Atlas (on a side note, the Thunderbolt shares the Awesome's legs almost).

Edited by FupDup, 03 July 2013 - 08:49 AM.

[Belorion]

I am going to have to go with the FD re-imagined Battlemaster. Many of the old designs while unarguably iconic, are pretty fugly.

The Old Battlemaster was one of the better designs, but the new one is still better.

[Ghostrider0067]

Call me a purist, but there's just something cool about the bubble canopy look as opposed to the re-imagining.

[Arkmaus]

I MUCH prefer the new model. IMO, most of the original designs don't looks nearly as good as the new ones. Alex is doing a great job.

[Belorion]

Ghostrider0067, on 03 July 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

Call me a purist, but there's just something cool about the bubble canopy look as opposed to the re-imagining.

Aside from any aesthetic concerns there are two problems with the bubble canopy. 1. They can't do it for legal reasons. 2. Oh my aching headshot.

[Wintersdark]

Yup. Alex's artwork is always, always far better than the originals.

Also, as was noted above, they couldn't use the original look and feel for legal(they only own the rights to the concept of the mech, not the appearance) and technical(where is the actual cockpit for headshot purposes?) reasons.

[C E Dwyer]

FupDup, on 03 July 2013 - 08:49 AM, said:

Pretty much everything by Alex looks better than the original.


My only gripe with his Battlemaster is that the legs look almost copied from his Atlas (on a side note, the Thunderbolt shares the Awesome's legs almost).

If the gear tooth Dynasty Shoulder pads were gone and the cockpit was curved I'd have to say Alex's new version would be far better, but with as we're getting I'd still take the old iconic model if given a choice.

Most mecha have similar design patterns, legs, arms, 'waist' torso through out the genre, there is far more variation in designs in the manual's after the 3029 tech book, which I have allways believed is down to using more and less talented artist than were used in the 3029 book, and not because of genuine differences. Alex seems to be using his obvious artistic Skills to bring all different looks under the same design parameters which is sensible, while retaining what makes the mech's look like a Locust,Centurion, or Atlas.

My main gripe with the 3D models created from his concept work are things like (IMO the most obvious differences) the highlander and victor Upper leg and shoulder joints which seem over wide spreading the models and making them look wide and ungainly coupled with a reluctance to put curved surfaces on them, often fails to do Justice to Alex's art

[Ghostrider0067]

Belorion, on 03 July 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

Aside from any aesthetic concerns there are two problems with the bubble canopy. 1. They can't do it for legal reasons. 2. Oh my aching headshot.

Yeah, I know. I just wish HG would give up already and just let them do the mechs up right.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Ghostrider0067, on 04 July 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Yeah, I know. I just wish HG would give up already and just let them do the mechs up right.

Yeah they are kind of beating a dead horse a bit arently they. I mean when did Robotech come out. 1986? Only a few of us old foggies probably even remember it though I guess it is kinda of a classic anime.

[Belorion]

Viktor Drake, on 04 July 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

Yeah they are kind of beating a dead horse a bit arently they. I mean when did Robotech come out. 1986? Only a few of us old foggies probably even remember it though I guess it is kinda of a classic anime.

Not really. Its a hashed together retelling of Macross... Macross is the classic anime.

[Ghostrider0067]

Viktor Drake, on 04 July 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

Yeah they are kind of beating a dead horse a bit arently they. I mean when did Robotech come out. 1986? Only a few of us old foggies probably even remember it though I guess it is kinda of a classic anime.

As is with most things, money is money. While what they've had brewing for so long just reeks of foolishness and desperation, I can understand their point. I would have thought this to be settled a long time ago, but apparently they've got no interest in moving on.