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[Filth Pig]

Just wondering if this can get an explanation?

Anyone see anything wrong here?

[T0rmented]

Explaination: Cause of death Head component destroyed, damaged by ER PPC, cockpit destroyed

Nope nothing wrong there.

[mailin]

What don't you understand? Looks like a very clear head shot to me. I think you've been successfully sniped.

[Splinters]

Yeah pretty straightforward. If you got hit by 2x+ ER PPC shot that can take you out in one volley. It's unclear what the opposing mech had so nothing odd from this unless you can show he hit you with a single ER PPC.

-S

[Filth Pig]

18 armor in the head plus 9 internal.. ERPPC does 10 damage.

[T0rmented]

which means 3 ERPPC/PPC = dead, do you really need a list of every mech that commonly boats such a loadout?

[Felicitatem Parco]

Actually, they bumped Head Internals to 15 for MW:O, and max headarmor is18

It takes ~33 dmg to kill by headshot, unless you have less than full cockpit armor, or you have ammo in the head.

This is why you can survive dual Gauss or 3xPPC to the head (with nothing but a smidgen of deep red health left), but dual AC/20 and Quad PPC = fatal.

(I am quite familiar with this because I regularly run triple PPC, and it's not fatal in most circumstances of headshot)

Edited by Prosperity Park, 25 March 2013 - 10:13 AM.

[Filth Pig]

no way to prove it was only one, but it was. And even if it were 2 erppc's it should do maximum of 20 damage, which still should only make the head component cherry red.

[SIN Deacon]

A single PPC impact shouldn't have equaled 27 points of damage. Only thing I can think of is he hit you with 3+ ppc's, but only registered the hit and kill from one of them.

Edited by SIN Deacon, 25 March 2013 - 10:13 AM.

[Filth Pig]

It was an atlas ddc from like 200m away.. he had 2erppcs in the arms.. only person that got a shot at me.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Filth Pig, on 25 March 2013 - 10:13 AM, said:

It was an atlas ddc from like 200m away.. he had 2erppcs in the arms.. only person that got a shot at me.

Were you using Default JagerMech armor or some other default armor, or did you verify that Head Armor maxed-out... and was your Head empty?

[Filth Pig]

no ammo in the head, was running an ac20 jager with all ammo in legs/ct. Walked around a corner to a DDC looking at me and blam.. dropped dead. All i'm saying is theres something wrong with that scenario...

[Filth Pig]

heres my loadout armor specs..

[Filth Pig]

I'm not upset, or raging about this.. I just wanna know how this can happen because to me, its seems bugged.

[StalaggtIKE]

... I thought you were referring to the chat.
Poor grammar?
Lewd comments? Lol.

As others have said 2xERPPC should not kill in one hit. Must be a bug, I do not believe there is a way to alter damage values (cheat).

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 25 March 2013 - 10:26 AM.

[mailin]

You should send a support ticket if you think it's a bug

[Splinters]

Intersesting, I was assuming they doubled TT rules which is 3 internal and 9 armor -> 6 internal and 18 armor for 24 points. So yes that should take more than 2 PPC's to the head to kill. Worth submitting a ticket in for IMO.

-S

[Filth Pig]

Can anyone confirm how much internal armor is in the head of a Jagermech? I opened up a ticket with support and they seem to think that there is only 18 hps total on the head of any mech.

The support guy also seems to think that 2 erppcs to the face of any mech will take it down.

Edited by Filth Pig, 25 March 2013 - 12:51 PM.

[Varrec Michaels]

I think the telling item is actually the "Cockpit destroyed" message. It looks to me like the ER PPC (I'm guessing there were at least two of them) penetrated and got a critical result against the cockpit.

[Fiona Marshe]

The death screen only registers the *type* of weapons that hit you, not the *number* of each weapon type. You may have been hit by 6 x ERPPCs, but the death only notes you were hit by *a* ERPPC.