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[Valore]

Frankly speaking, cosmetic items are something that annoy me the most at the moment.

The reason I say this, is because they're something which I feel are a perfectly legitimate way for PGI to make money out of its audience, and make their customers happy while doing so.

Instead of doing that, they seem intent on focusing making money in other greyer P2Wish areas that simply provide these forums with the less fun version of Community Warfare.


Why even bother doing that when off the top of my head, there are a plenty of imaginative cosmetic ideas that would probably convince people to spend money. Some probably were listed somewhere in the forums themselves.

For example:

Colour changes to laser beams/PPC bolts

Texture (not just paint) skins for mechs - e.g. Factory Fresh metallic, battle scarred,

Paints that are visible in other vision modes (Giant horrible glowing smiley face on an Atlas)

More imaginative/humourous paint schems. Anyone who complains this takes away immersion probably needs to realise if this was a real fight, your enemy would happily put anything on his mech if this distracted you for even a fraction of a second.


Its really no surprise that people aren't buying cosmetics. The ones they have on offer are unimaginative at best, completely half-hearted at worst, and I think people feel that.

But I may be wrong. So take the poll, its got multiple options enabled, so tick those you agree with. If it needs any more options, let me know, and I'll add them on.

Edited by Valore, 25 March 2013 - 07:52 PM.

[That Guy]

you need to get it into your head that the coders/engineers necessary to make CM and bug fixes and all that shazzazz DONT make little 3D urbies for our dashboards.

if you dont like the cosmetic items dont buy them. which you probably havnt.

the prices for one time camo, and paints is quite fair. the cockpit items are a bit high for my tastes though, but i do have a couple high priced items. (like the dice, hula girl and classymech)

Edited by That Guy, 25 March 2013 - 07:59 PM.

[Valore]

That Guy, on 25 March 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

you need to get it into your head that the coders/engineers necessary to make CM and bug fixes and all that shazzazz DONT make little 3D urbies for our dashboards.

if you dont like the cosmetic items dont buy them.

2 points here that you probably need to consider:

1. They don't need to make MORE. They could make BETTER. If I have someone who makes me really bad coffee, I don't hire more people to make me MORE bad coffee. That would be idiotic. I fire them and find someone who makes me good coffee.

2. The 'if you dont like the cosmetic items dont buy them.' line, please take a moment to realise how stupid this makes you sound. The whole point of this thread is to find out if people WANT to buy cosmetics, but aren't for some reason. Telling people 'don't buy them then', helps absolutely no one, not you, not me, not the game, not PGI. So yeah.

[Commander Kobold]

when a virtual air freshener costs more than a real one, we have a problem (especially when you have to by multiples if you want it in your other mechs)

[valkyrie]

Only one worth buying thus far was and still is the Classy Urbs. Plebians need not apply.

[Alymbic]

I want to be able to switch out my seat for a crate of machine gun ammo. This plan is flawless

[Valore]

Alymbic, on 25 March 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

I want to be able to switch out my seat for a crate of machine gun ammo. This plan is flawless

I could have sworn stuffing a ton of ammo into the cockpit was critical to any decent mech build requiring ammo

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

That Guy, on 25 March 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

you need to get it into your head that

the devs dont care about polls. Theyve told us that

[That Guy]

Valore, on 25 March 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:

2 points here that you probably need to consider:

1. They don't need to make MORE. They could make BETTER. If I have someone who makes me really bad coffee, I don't hire more people to make me MORE bad coffee. That would be idiotic. I fire them and find someone who makes me good coffee.

2. The 'if you dont like the cosmetic items dont buy them.' line, please take a moment to realise how stupid this makes you sound. The whole point of this thread is to find out if people WANT to buy cosmetics, but aren't for some reason. Telling people 'don't buy them then', helps absolutely no one, not you, not me, not the game, not PGI. So yeah.

well i may be stupid, but when the thing you hate most about the game are little shinies on our dashboards, and then to dedicate a whole topic to saying that you dont want them or like them, that response is justified. its here, and its not going anywhere

and the things you propose are basically what they are doing now. skins (camo), and paints (though thermal/IR paint would be pretty badass). none of these things are better in anyway then the current lineup, other than the fact that they dont exist

so, what do you not like, the current line up of items (these will expand with time), or the fact that PGI are dedicating precious man hours to superfluous shinies to distract us unsophisticated unwashed masses from the horrible unfinished buggy game, instead of making the art team do code work?

edit: or is it the price? 'cause 1000mc is a bit steep

Edited by That Guy, 25 March 2013 - 08:21 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

That Guy, on 25 March 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

well i may be stupid, but when the thing you hate most about the game are little shinies on our dashboards, and then to dedicate a whole topic to saying that you dont want them or like them, that response is justified. its here, and its not going anywhere

and the things you propose are basically what they are doing now. skins (camo), and paints (though thermal/IR paint would be pretty badass). none of these things are better in anyway then the current lineup, other than the fact that they dont exist

so, what do you not like, the current line up of items (these will expand with time), or the fact that PGI are dedicating precious man hours to superfluous shinies to distract us unsophisticated unwashed masses from the horrible unfinished buggy game, instead of making the art team do code work?

I dont wanna be "that guy"

but HE does lol

[Alymbic]

Valore, on 25 March 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:

1. They don't need to make MORE. They could make BETTER. If I have someone who makes me really bad coffee, I don't hire more people to make me MORE bad coffee. That would be idiotic. I fire them and find someone who makes me good coffee.

You make a good point about the coffee.

Dev's, can we have a coffee machine? I dont want human error to disrupt my pilots experience with inferior coffee

[Valore]

That Guy, on 25 March 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

well i may be stupid, but when the thing you hate most about the game are little shinies on our dashboards, and then to dedicate a whole topic to saying that you dont want them or like them, that response is justified. its here, and its not going anywhere

and the things you propose are basically what they are doing now. skins (camo), and paints (though thermal/IR paint would be pretty badass). none of these things are better in anyway then the current lineup, other than the fact that they dont exist

so, what do you not like, the current line up of items (these will expand with time), or the fact that PGI are dedicating precious man hours to superfluous shinies to distract us unsophisticated unwashed masses from the horrible unfinished buggy game, instead of making the art team do code work?

edit: or is it the price? 'cause 1000mc is a bit steep

PGI has to make money.

They either make money through ways that don't cause giant flame wars like cosmetics, or they make it through things like coolant flush and artillery strike, that do.

Its a possibility they've looked at things, and decided to go the latter way, because they assume people just aren't buying cosmetics for 'some reason'. An assumption that comes possibly from poor sales figures of cosmetic items.

This poll hopefully sheds some light on why their current sales figures are the way they are. And faint as that hope may be, perhaps this will get them to get their priorities right instead of constantly making decisions that cause Community Rioting. I.E, making some changes to their cosmetics policy, whether it be in pricing or item quality/quantity,

Trust me, I'd walk around in mechs made out of square blocks if they said that was the price for having things like host state rewind implemented. But that's not the point of this thread, and I'm not proposing we try to convince them to improve cosmetics at the cost of those more important improvements.

Alymbic, on 25 March 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

You make a good point about the coffee.

Dev's, can we have a coffee machine? I dont want human error to disrupt my pilots experience with inferior coffee

Because what Alymbic really needs is a boiling hot espresso machine in his bouncing, shaking, unstable giant robot of doom What could go wrong.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

If they want money they should charge a monthly sub lol

[Alymbic]

Valore, on 25 March 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

Because what Alymbic really needs is a boiling hot espresso machine in his bouncing, shaking, unstable giant robot of doom What could go wrong.

Well, my pilot appears to be wearing a nanosuit from crysis. [shrugs] When combats joined I wont really be shedding tears over soem spilled coffee.

Maybe alternate clothing as a type of "decoration"

[Taemien]

The issue I see with alot of posts similar to this, is sometimes a poster has an agenda attached. When making an opinion about something that can be bought in this game it is important to take an unbiased stance. Understand that while you might not like, for example the hula girl, someone else might. I see that is why there is a poll, but what is the real reason behind the poll?

I mean if most people do turn out to not like the current items, what should PGI do? Replace them? What about the minority that did like them? Is it to show how different the people who do like them are from the majority? Isn't that a little unfair as well?

I think a different approach could have been made. Instead of calling the current items unimaginative alternatives could be suggested. A simple post listing off items you wanted added with suggested prices you'd like to pay would have been much more positive and in the end more constructive.

Now I'm not saying everyone shouldn't give feedback on the current items. But lets be realistic here. The current items are already in game. Its too late to change them. People have bought them and its better and more constructive to move forward rather than look back.

I'm of the opinion that the more variety the better. Flags, Urbiebobbleheads and other things are cool for some people. Some others may want something else. Lets focus more on what we want, and definitely refrain from judging what others want. Lets have our cake and eat it too.

[Roadbeer]

Hell, I'd pay a monthly fee AND micro-transactions IF they make Community Warfare worth it (right now I'm having my doubts)

[Valore]

Taemien, on 25 March 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

The issue I see with alot of posts similar to this, is sometimes a poster has an agenda attached. When making an opinion about something that can be bought in this game it is important to take an unbiased stance. Understand that while you might not like, for example the hula girl, someone else might. I see that is why there is a poll, but what is the real reason behind the poll?

I mean if most people do turn out to not like the current items, what should PGI do? Replace them? What about the minority that did like them? Is it to show how different the people who do like them are from the majority? Isn't that a little unfair as well?

I think a different approach could have been made. Instead of calling the current items unimaginative alternatives could be suggested. A simple post listing off items you wanted added with suggested prices you'd like to pay would have been much more positive and in the end more constructive.

Now I'm not saying everyone shouldn't give feedback on the current items. But lets be realistic here. The current items are already in game. Its too late to change them. People have bought them and its better and more constructive to move forward rather than look back.

I'm of the opinion that the more variety the better. Flags, Urbiebobbleheads and other things are cool for some people. Some others may want something else. Lets focus more on what we want, and definitely refrain from judging what others want. Lets have our cake and eat it too.

I don't disagree with any of that, but I think its important to highlight how poorly done some things are.

I'm not pushing for say, coal or flags, the two items that I think are the most shoddy of efforts to be removed. But the fact of the matter is, they really are very meh in terms of resolution, textures, implementation, etc.

Coal for example. Off the top of my head, why couldn't it be dangling from a dirty piece of string? Or wrapped in a grubby looking ribbon? Or something that makes it look other than a crummy block of low res black?

I'm sure others could think of far better ideas than that even.

Edited by Valore, 25 March 2013 - 08:58 PM.

[Tennex]

WTB PhysX for faction flags