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[Eleshod]

So I was recently playing in my shiny new Phract x1 on river city. After pounding several targets over and over with PPC I overheated and suddenly exploded.

I couldn't figure out wtf happened, it said I killed myself, my chest exploded without dropping armor and no damage was taken from other sources.

Now I would understand if I was running any sort of ballistics or if I had been over-riding, but I simply overheated and exploded.

Does anyone have any idea what might have happened, both teams seemed just as confused as I was.

[Commander Binz]

Did you hit "Override" on the auto-shutdown? Because im pretty sure that allows you to overheat and destroy your engine. Which it looks like you did....

[Lt David Barns]

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I would understand if I was running any sort of ballistics or if I had been over-riding

He didn't.

Could you clarify: Was your mech about to shut down from overheating or were you still a bit away from that? Also, did it explode upon firing a weapon or between using weapons?

[Eleshod]

Lt David Barns, on 26 March 2013 - 12:21 AM, said:

He didn't.

Could you clarify: Was your mech about to shut down from overheating or were you still a bit away from that? Also, did it explode upon firing a weapon or between using weapons?

Upon firing, I was near an overheat and fired off a EDIT:((PPC)), the moment I overheated I exploded.

Edited by Eleshod, 26 March 2013 - 12:42 AM.

[FunkyFritter]

You probably hit the override by mistake.

[Kasiagora]

If you have any ammo based equipment on your mech, too much heat can cook off that ammo and cause internal explosions. It could even happen with AMS ammo. Also depending on how much heat you were building with each salvo you could have spiked far enough into the red to cause it quickly. That's actually why I wish we had a function to jettison ammo. If your auto cannon gets blown off, then drop the ammo so it can't kill you. I've had an Awesome back a while ago where I fired a couple salvos of PPCs and baked off my LRM ammo. This happened fast enough that I didn't hit Override in time and I asploded while my mech was shut down. It was on Caustic, but still, it was no bueno.

Edited by Kasiagora, 26 March 2013 - 12:52 AM.

[Eleshod]

Nope no ammo and my finger never even approached the P key.

The explosion was instantaneous the moment I overheated

To clarify my build was 2 large lasers 2 ppc no ams, no ammo. I never touched the override this was my second overheat.

Edited by Eleshod, 26 March 2013 - 01:19 AM.

[Lt David Barns]

The only answer I can think of by this point is a malfunctioning override combined with very, very bad luck with reactor crits, but even that extremely far-fetched.

Seems like you found some kind of bug with disastrous results and an unclear trigger. In all likelihood the only thing you can do is hope that it won't happen again and/or inform PGI (if they have not already taken note, that is).

Edited by Lt David Barns, 26 March 2013 - 01:29 AM.

[Kasiagora]

Sounding more and more like a bug to me. I haven't had this one happen to me, but I'd fill out a support ticket as detailed as you can and they'll probably send a reply saying they already know about it, they're working to fix it in a future patch, but thanks and it's appreciated because it's support tickets and help from the community that are the biggest contributions to helping them catch things and making the game better. Or something along those lines. That's the reply I'd gotten from most of mine...

Except one where a long while ago if you'd go along the top of the stone arch in Forest Colony and went out of bounds right there, the count down would keep going if you came back in and you'd blow up anyway. I'd tested going out of bounds in other places on the map without problem, so I told them about it and they said they didn't know about that at the time and fixed it pretty quick.

Edited for poor grammar and spelling. Bed time. o/

Edited by Kasiagora, 26 March 2013 - 01:40 AM.

[Boymonkey]

Had the same thing also I fired an erppc and boom overheated and exploded. I didn't hit the override button but the shot headshotted the last enemy mech so it didn't even say at the end I was dead

[AlexEss]

How close to overheating were you before the last shot.?

What did your final volley consists of?

What is your heat efficiency?

I have had similar things happen to me on caustic when i ran my Jenner F in the old system. I would blaze one last alpha and it would kill me.Have not had it happen to me in the new system but the again i do my best to not overheat these days.

What you can do is try to replicate the result, take notes and then send that in a bug report for PGI to look at.

[DerSpecht]

AFAIK there always was a maximun heat value in mechwarrior games that destroyed the mech if the heat generated was just too much. Automatic shutdown works only if u stay below it..

[Eleshod]

interesting, thank you for all the info. I had two assumptions, either a bug or I really crushed the heat gauge in some catastrophic way. I plan to test this in the training grounds tomorrow with my stalker and 6 PPC see if I can break myself again.

[Koniving]

Eleshod, on 26 March 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

So I was recently playing in my shiny new Phract x1 on river city. After pounding several targets over and over with PPC I overheated and suddenly exploded.

I couldn't figure out wtf happened, it said I killed myself, my chest exploded without dropping armor and no damage was taken from other sources.

Now I would understand if I was running any sort of ballistics or if I had been over-riding, but I simply overheated and exploded.

Does anyone have any idea what might have happened, both teams seemed just as confused as I was.

If you exceed a certain degree of heat, whether or not you override, you take internal damage. It's possible now, with say a Cicada and 4* ERR PPCs, that you can fire once and instantly die with no shut down, because the heat is just that strong.

[Axident]

Also, if you ride the redline for too long (~ 95% heat) you can take serious damage. It seems to be random, but the longer you push the heat limits, the more likely it becomes. If that damage is to your engine or some other critical, it can kill you. I've had it happen, espcially on Stalker energy builds.

[Wraith 1]

Just a thought, but how close were you to the border of the map? There's a spot in River City where the out of bounds area extends a bit farther than it should, I've seen a trenchbucket die from standing there for a few seconds.

[Donas]

Wraith 1, on 27 March 2013 - 02:23 AM, said:

Just a thought, but how close were you to the border of the map? There's a spot in River City where the out of bounds area extends a bit farther than it should, I've seen a trenchbucket die from standing there for a few seconds.

good point. I've seen and experienced that as well near the collapsed bridge near upper-city.

Edited by Donas, 27 March 2013 - 07:31 AM.