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[Purplefluffybunny]

Whilst I was briefly a mod on the ts server, it was mentioned to me that PGI intended to split the community into national and regional groupings and that this was why the ts servers were set up as they are now. PGI, is there any truth to this?

It was also mentioned to me by someone close to internal beta testers that community warfare may also play on this split and divide by real life national groupings. If true, why do this? Is it the case that your net code will not allow for easy and smooth game play? I mean right now lights still lag at high speed!

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 27 March 2013 - 03:07 PM.

[Lyoto Machida]

That sucks, if true. I guess people should start joining units in their geographical area? Not a fan of this idea...

[Tennex]

yeah but its inevitable in all online games.

maybe they will allow accounts on other region servers

Edited by Tennex, 27 March 2013 - 03:08 PM.

[von Pilsner]

Ask the Devs 31 - Answers (http://mwomercs.com/...evs-31-answers/)

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Servers:

Nash - You mentioned that EU servers may be introduced at 2013. My question is: Will your pilot name be available on both servers (North America and Europe) or only on one of them? (I ask because otherwise it could happen that 2 different people are taking the same pilot name one at North America and the other at Europe
A: Each region is has its own database and unique user names. Regions do not play with or against each other.

It would be nice if we could have a global account that can be used in any region, because I am not having 2 accounts (too much grinding and MC is too expensive to bother with that) to play in 2 regions.

Edited by von Pilsner, 27 March 2013 - 03:11 PM.

[Purplefluffybunny]

Yeah, someone just pointed me to a dev q&a where this is discussed. A little confused as the big boys running ts implied that this was the idea all along or at least strongly on the cards. In fact they were annoyed when PGI didn't split when they preemptively split the ts community up into regions.

Personally I think it is crazy to split off into EU and USA let alone, say UK, GERMAN, RUSSIA as distinct regions.

My dreams of a more Eve like experience are fast disappearing!

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 27 March 2013 - 03:13 PM.

[Psikez]

Seth: Could you clarify the answer last week concerning the split of US and UK players on different servers? I ask because a number of units have members from all around the world and it would be rough if we couldn't interact with them in the game.
A: For most regions, players will get to choose which servers to play on. So if you have a friend in the UK that want to play with US players, they can log into NA servers. This holds true for NA players, who can log into EU servers and play with friends there. Final details are still evolving, so this information is subject to change.

WolvesX: Is a server split really necessary, could there not be just the option, before a match where to play (EU / NA) and the community could stay together (Worldwide ComWar, Units)?
A: To offer the best possible play experience and customer support for each region, yes we believe regional servers are the best choice. For most regions, players will still have the option to play on any server.


http://mwomercs.com/...vs-32-answered/

[Lyoto Machida]

von Pilsner, on 27 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Ask the Devs 31 - Answers (http://mwomercs.com/...evs-31-answers/)

I really hate this idea. Are we really going to have enough players to support this, while also splitting queues in to PUG/premades? Then split between 1st person and 3rd person???

[von Pilsner]

Psikez, on 27 March 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

Seth: Could you clarify the answer last week concerning the split of US and UK players on different servers? I ask because a number of units have members from all around the world and it would be rough if we couldn't interact with them in the game.
A: For most regions, players will get to choose which servers to play on. So if you have a friend in the UK that want to play with US players, they can log into NA servers. This holds true for NA players, who can log into EU servers and play with friends there. Final details are still evolving, so this information is subject to change.

WolvesX: Is a server split really necessary, could there not be just the option, before a match where to play (EU / NA) and the community could stay together (Worldwide ComWar, Units)?
A: To offer the best possible play experience and customer support for each region, yes we believe regional servers are the best choice. For most regions, players will still have the option to play on any server.


http://mwomercs.com/...vs-32-answered/

Nice, I had not seen the updated info!!

[AceTimberwolf]

Yea I play late at Night so I usually group up with the Aussies and Brits. I would not enjoy such a thing

[Gregory Owen]

i'm pretty sure they've done this as a solution to the lag some players have. My house is almost 50/50 american/aussie. none of them will be leaving unless forced too.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Yes it is true.
They should have done this instead of making it easier for hig pings to hit low pings.
I cant wait!

[Numnuts]

odds are

1. split que for NA/EU
2. split que for 1st and 3rd person view
3. split que for CW ( each faction split against each other with Lone Wolfs being tossed around to fill the gap?)

4. is ELO going to do a dam thing? i mean is the player base so big that they can do all that above and have the ELO doing whats its ment to do? i dont think so with how the elo has a hard time right now with trying to make even groups with ELO and Mechs(lol)..

5. ooh yea MECH's being evened out so it isnt lights vs assaults with all the above...

im honestly starting to lose faith again

[Purplefluffybunny]

Psikez, on 27 March 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

WolvesX: Is a server split really necessary, could there not be just the option, before a match where to play (EU / NA) and the community could stay together (Worldwide ComWar, Units)?
A: To offer the best possible play experience and customer support for each region, yes we believe regional servers are the best choice. For most regions, players will still have the option to play on any server.

That answer pretty much answers the question, is it your poor net code that necessitates this split? The answer seems to be yes.

It sucks. I would not mind so much if it were not for the fact that PGI killed the only other decent online mechwarrior game with a good international community, namely MWLL.

I really hope HARRP has the MWLL development build and that we eventually see MWLL return on the black market server kinda way. I can but only dream!

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 27 March 2013 - 03:23 PM.

[Purplefluffybunny]

von Pilsner, on 27 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

It would be nice if we could have a global account that can be used in any region, because I am not having 2 accounts (too much grinding and MC is too expensive to bother with that) to play in 2 regions.

Yes very expensive! I hadn't thought about it like that as I play for free. Putting on my ultra cynical capitalist cap for but a tiny sec; what a bloody good way to make money of an international community! Split them up form one another and make them pay twice to maintain their social bonds!

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 27 March 2013 - 03:35 PM.

[Chemie]

They have been changing across each ask the developer.

From LATEST ATD #34:
SgtKinCaiD: Can we have a command chair post that explain CLEARLY your statement on the regional server matter ?

A: Sure, when we have a final direction. For now it’s pretty straightforward. Each region will have their own MWO server(s). Most players can create accounts on each server. Some regions will be locked and only available to players located in said region. There will most likely be no central account concept, where you are able to select the region you want to play in. That’s the super quick high level.

Edited by Chemie, 27 March 2013 - 03:44 PM.

[von Pilsner]

Chemie, on 27 March 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

They have been changing across each ask the developer.

From LATEST ATD #34:
SgtKinCaiD: Can we have a command chair post that explain CLEARLY your statement on the regional server matter ?

A: Sure, when we have a final direction. For now it’s pretty straightforward. Each region will have their own MWO server(s). Most players can create accounts on each server. Some regions will be locked and only available to players located in said region. There will most likely be no central account concept, where you are able to select the region you want to play in. That’s the super quick high level.

And now I am sad again...

[krash27]

Numnuts, on 27 March 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

odds are

1. split que for NA/EU
2. split que for 1st and 3rd person view
3. split que for CW ( each faction split against each other with Lone Wolfs being tossed around to fill the gap?)

4. is ELO going to do a dam thing? i mean is the player base so big that they can do all that above and have the ELO doing whats its ment to do? i dont think so with how the elo has a hard time right now with trying to make even groups with ELO and Mechs(lol)..

5. ooh yea MECH's being evened out so it isnt lights vs assaults with all the above...

im honestly starting to lose faith again

IF pugs/solo players/casuals, whatever you want to call us, are used for the premade fodder, I think it will be short lived. A lot of people will quit if thats the case.

Edited by krash27, 27 March 2013 - 03:59 PM.

[Chavette]

We gonna have it devided by elo, game mode, region, 3rd person. So you will have a 1/8 chance of dropping with your friend who is also soloing.

This system was designed by hard work and sweat by the PGI team, they didnt manage to come up with anything better.

[Purplefluffybunny]

That's the thing Chemie, I think it is a little more set in stone. The conversations I had on the TS server with some of those running them indicated that the reason for them splitting up the ts servers into regions, was because that was what PGI were going to do with the game servers.

It reminds me of when they first brought the TS servers down in favour of C3. Thing was I did some checking and called up details on how long PGI members had had active C3 accounts. I Checked further and found some of what they were up to with those accounts quite early on. This, despite us being told that it was not a planned thing nor in the 'pipeline'. We were given other reasons. The point of this diversion being is that, well, I don't think they are being honest with us by giving us a non-committal response to whether there is going to be a server split.

One final related point. It was suggested to me that as community warfare is impacted so heavily by splitting the community, any confirmation would be last min as there is perhaps the fear that the community won't like what is put onto the table and that the population would dip (?). Just throwing that one out there.

Edited by Purplefluffybunny, 27 March 2013 - 03:58 PM.

[Chavette]

The real reason they wanna completely split regions is its a month worth of extra coding for a few guys do set up a database and change the system to have it able to change regions between sessions.

They are simply lazy and want to do the shortest route possible. They full well know, many will have accounts on both regions and many will buy MC on both regions, where that wouldnt be the case with a unified system.

They are lazy and money hungry.

If anyone from PGI wants to debate me on this, you are welcome.

Edited by Chavette, 27 March 2013 - 04:14 PM.