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[Dieslave]

After loads of testing matches, i have landed on what i feel is a solid build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8eaf55fb3018634

2xERPPC 2xSRM4 2xSRM2.
18DHS
270STD.

ive been using many, many variants of what you see here. starting with an XL300, which actually runs a bit cooler, but the jager's LT/RT just WTFmelt sometimes. and since ive mastered the jager chassis, ive felt comfortable downgrading engine size for a top speed of 74 with speed tweak.

the other variant i really enjoyed was the same as above just substituting 4x SSRM2s. but i found that when i needed them most, it was against an ECM mech i failed to hit with my ppcs. or is an above average pilot and knew to avoid my front side for too long.

my question for you is, what is your favorite jager variant/setup that has proven useful and at times, made you feel like a shiny golden-metal-fusion powered god.

[Madwill]

mine is
AC 5 x3 with 5T ammo
ML x3
Endo
Ferro
Std 250
394 armor

with speed tweak it gets decent speed and can take a beating. chain firing the AC's and using the ML's for close range. the other version for more damage and laser range, but, less use of terrain swaps out one AC and the ML's for two LL.

[Raso]

Dual AC10s with the standard 260 engine and 4 small lasers for close in defense on the S variant. Full armor everywhere except the legs which have around 40 each.

Too lazy to make it up in Smurfy's, sorry.

[Jay Z]

Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka
JM6-DD
Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka

[Tahribator]

Why do you bother with a Jag if you're not going to use those Ballistics spots and fill missile racks with SRM's? I can do the same build on my Treb 7K and be more effective.

[Icepick]

Tahribator, on 05 April 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

Why do you bother with a Jag if you're not going to use those Ballistics spots and fill missile racks with SRM's? I can do the same build on my Treb 7K and be more effective.

I was thinking the same thing. I mean, its a solid build and all (I like the STD engine), but you really arent using the characteristics that make Jagers unique - Unless it is lobbing SRMs over buildings. Looks more like a slow Cat C1 build than a Jager.

[Biggieboy]

Jay Z, on 05 April 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka
JM6-DD
Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka

No. Just no.

[Dieslave]

Icepick, on 05 April 2013 - 04:58 AM, said:

I was thinking the same thing. I mean, its a solid build and all (I like the STD engine), but you really arent using the characteristics that make Jagers unique - Unless it is lobbing SRMs over buildings. Looks more like a slow Cat C1 build than a Jager.

i agree to some extent, i have just been burnt out on autocannnons lately. i own all three variants and have different setups for each. this one is simply my favorite, my S does have twin ac/20s, and my DD 2xac/10s and some lasers as backup. i just have been having the most fun in this lately.

[Hurricane Bob]

i like the JM6-S the most and this setup is so much fun to run
engine: XL210 @ 52kph
armor: 352/422
upgrades: DS+ES
weapons: 2xUltraAC/5 + 2xAC/2 + 4SL
ammo: 2tons ac2, 6tons uac5

[Icepick]

Dieslave, on 05 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

i agree to some extent, i have just been burnt out on autocannnons lately...

Now THAT is a sentiment I can get behind. I am getting a little weary of sneaking around and popping people in the back when they aren't looking.

Its a good build, might try it out myself this weekend.

Carry on

[Bagheera]

Tahribator, on 05 April 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

Why do you bother with a Jag if you're not going to use those Ballistics spots and fill missile racks with SRM's? I can do the same build on my Treb 7K and be more effective.

I'd love to know how you got a Trebbie with 4 missile hardpoints, much less on a 7K.

I agree with your core point that using a Jager without using the ballistic slots seems ... odd ... but I think you meant to say Catapult, not Trebuchet.

[Royalewithcheese]

Should put AC20s on it

So. Much. Fun.

[Bagheera]

Dual UAC5 and dual AC2 is also much fun for the Devotee's of Dakka.

[Royalewithcheese]

Here's my take on a non-AC/20 loadout Like the Jagerbomb, it's got a high precision alpha, but it's even more of a Frankenmech than the Jagerbomb Also, it's a mech that isn't a light where Ferro actually makes sense, which is pretty weird.

http://mechromancer....1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0

It's based on the Lascat described here. Compared to the Lascat, it has:

• Same weapons/heatsinks/torso armor.
  
• Faster engine.
  
• Better torso pitch.
  
• Bigger side torsos (IE better ability to shield the CT, but bigger chance of losing half its weaponry.)
  
• No arm-mounted weapons (probably a net negative.)

I got no idea if this is actually good in real matches because you'll have to pry me away from my dakka with a crowbar. But IMO it looks good on paper at least.


EDIT: Wow, posting in threads would be so much easier if I was literate and/or read thread titles. This a JMS, not a JMA. Probably still lots of fun tho

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 09 April 2013 - 09:12 AM.

[El Death Smurf]

no other mech can do this, and i am in love with 4srm6 and an lb10x on the Jag-A. i try and have variety on any mech i have 3 of, and this breaks awasy from teh AC dependancy, and lets the single lb10x supliment the build. i love lb10x as a finishing tool to rip mechs to shreds once the SRMs rip off armor, and you can run a little hot with a 250 standard engine, or keep it cool and fast with more heatsinks and a 300xl.

[RedrumnCoke]

I know it's not the A variant, but wanted to throw this out there as you mentioned yours was a non ac20 build which I was avoiding as well. I wanted a non-xl engine build for my Jager as its side torsos are large and easy to target. I also wanted something that used ballistics (as the high ballistic hardpoints are the best feature of this mech. What I came up with after trying various all the different ballistic weapons is this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...360c175cb2d48fe

It may not have the 40 pt alpha of the the dual ac20, but 30 is respectable, more so when you factor in that you can refire those ac5s in 1.7 seconds. Two ac5s (2.94 dps x 2 = 5.88 dps) have more dps than one ac20 (5 dps). The 4 medium lasers are balanced by the low heat of the ac5s and provide the punch when targets get close.

Yeah, I realize 2 ac5s and 4 med lasers are not as badass sounding as dual ac20s or dual gauss, but they are good, solid weapons. If you want you can shave off 2 tons and trade in for uac5s, but I prefer the lower heat of the ac5s so that I can fire those lasers with impunity. Also, I have horrible luck with those jamming on me when I most need them.

Weapon stats: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...eapon_ballistic

[Kiiyor]

JM6-DD - MAD DAKKA

My compromise between 3 and 4 UAC5. I often drop in an XL200 for even less speed and more dakka. God I love dakka. This mech is a barely mobile heavily armed pillbox.

To use, you plonk your ponderous fat butt behind an atlas, wait for contact and click like you're trying to set a record as soon as you get something under your crosshairs. If your guns jam, the vanilla ac5s are still a threat. If your guns don't jam, your enemies will be paperclips.

[armyof1]

I ran my Jagger-A without a single missile since I always use an XL and fight from mid to long range. I tried streaks for a while but ECM lights quickly made that pointless, so I saved the tonnage for bigger lasers instead.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cb16226c7175002
Be a bit conservative with your ammo and use the LL whenever you think you might hit but not really have a good shot, and of course on lights. I actually like those big arms too because when I torso twist clockwise, the left arm will act as a shield to protect my right side torso and vice versa.

Edited by armyof1, 09 April 2013 - 08:56 AM.

[Arctourus]

mine has four ac2 and two mlas. I added a lot of armor and dhs which made it very survivable. May have to remove a little to add extra ammo though. If you play cautiously and have good aim, the four ac2 barrage will chew through armor like crazy.

[Spheroid]

1 AC-20, 2xMplas and 2xSRM6 http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e879853f946d826